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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 25, 2007 1:39 pm) Then again, I am toying with the idea of possibly trading it in on the new Genesis when they finally hit the showrooms. It's a hard choice because I really do love my Azera (not to mention, it's paid for too). Living with no car note is SWEET!!!
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Replying to: allmet33 (Oct 26, 2007 4:36 am) Just did another drive (Denver-KC). Got 29+MPG at a fairly steady 75+ speed, so not quite in the Avalon category. I would have expected about 30-31 under similar circumstance (based on my old AV). But boy, is it a nice ride, and I do like the ESC (electronic stability control) on the Azera. But, I had the VSC on my Avalon, too. I have a good friend back in KC that has an 06 Chry 300. He will not be appearing on this forum to discuss the merits of his purchase. Although under warranty, it has been in for transmission problems, numerous squeaks and rattles, and a broken trunk lock. Other than that, he likes the looks, lol.
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Replying to: jaymagic (Oct 26, 2007 7:39 am) The ceramic pads just do a better job of keeping brake dust off the wheels and they last a bit longer than the semi-metallic ones too. I had used them on my Sonata and they never proved to be a problem. Some folks will tell you that they will tear the rotors up. They can, but you would have to be doing some extreme driving to make that happen. I only paid $24 for the rear ceramic brake pads from an internet store Rock Auto Auto Parts If I recall, the front ceramic pads were like around $40 for the set. Replacing them was a snap...took longer to jack the car up and remove the wheel than it did to loosen the caliper, swap the pads and put the caliper back on! |
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jaymajic's comment about his friend and his apparent problems with his 300 (300C I'm guessing), also reminds me that the Impala SS has also achieved the infamous 'black circle' from CR and might also indicate that these 'new' RWD V8 Aussie models (like the GTO) be approached with caution. Both companies have been producing small block V8s like this for years and years - but 'black circle' ratings tend to happen with reliability/engine issues. Makes no sense, unless we are having a replay of those famous problems Cadillac had back in the earlier 90s with V8-6-4 or for some reason, GM can't produce a multi spd. tranny that'll handle the extra torque. Anybody shed some light on what kind of problems folks are having, because the V6 models seem to be doing better? This is the most logical competition for things like the Genesis, but it sure beginning to sound like 'Detroit' will be leaving the door wide open - again!
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 26, 2007 10:23 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Oct 26, 2007 10:35 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 26, 2007 10:50 am) V8 rumble eh? Go try Nissan's VQ35. Want a high screaming V6? Honda has that taken care of. Don't like both but want ultimate refinement? Toyota's 2GR is the one for you. With cases like these, I just don't see the point of "low feature" V8s anymore.
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