Last post on Jul 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM
You are in the Sedans
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Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#3274 of 6854 Re: 2008 TAURUS [newcarforme]
Sep 13, 2007 (1:13 pm)
for those more technically challenged, as you put it, rest assured that new DT3.5 is still well behind similar engines in Toyotas, Nissans, Hondas, and even that Azera you were so unimpressed with - you don't need to to know why, only a decent set of ears and some nerve endings in the seat of your pants. And incidentally, I don't ever remember anybody calling the 500 anything but a well designed car that many of us beat up mercilessly for its crappy powertrain. Te car itself has been softened up(to make up for the loss of the Crown Vic?) which is good or bad depending on personal preference, the car now should have enough power to get out of its own way but is is still well down the list in this particular group - there are some genuinely good cars listed above. IT may indeed be what the 500 should have been in the first place, but it's now 3 years too late and too little - as is typical for Ford these days. It's not altogether their fault, they don't have the money or possibly the inclination to do any better.
Happy for you that you like it though - if we're spending 20 or 30 something, we all deserve at least that
#3275 of 6854 Re: 2008 TAURUS [captain2]
Sep 13, 2007 (1:22 pm)
I just want to make clear to everyone, if I had been shooting for a performance vehicle, I would have opted to go with my original choice. Impala SS.
The argument that continues to be made here is that the new engine in the Taurus is really not new at all. That is fine by me. It's still 263 HP and has PLENTY of pickup. I disagree that the other large sedans have anything substantially better. (And I get it, some people may prefer the sound and feel of an import or the grunt of a V8)
This might be "3 years to late" but what other brand new engines have been made available from the competitors? With the exception of the SS, it's still just as good or close to any of the other Avalon, Azera, Maxima, etc. in terms of HP.
PS - I drove an Acura before I dare took the domestic route. First time in my life.
#3276 of 6854 Re: 2008 TAURUS [newcarforme]
Sep 13, 2007 (1:29 pm)
you are missing the point - 'better' just might have something to do with how an engine sounds and feels, and how willingly and transparently these engines can get their rated 260-270 hp.
#3277 of 6854 Re: Taurus vs Avalon [colloquor]
Sep 13, 2007 (1:33 pm)
Although I like the Avalon, at least the Taurus isn't saddled with that bloody awful blond-colored faux wood used in the center console and stack of the Avalon.
Definitely agree about the blond-colored faux wood - happily for 2008 I understand that it is changing to a sort of cherry-colored faux wood, which to my eyes certainly looks better.
#3278 of 6854 Re: 2008 TAURUS [newcarforme]
Sep 13, 2007 (1:45 pm)
Ok Ok Ok Ok
You have convinced Me and probably everyone in here of your love for, admiration of, validity of your analytical Abilities, and why I will look at the Tarus next time I buy a car.
That's of course if Ford manages to stay in business
You win , we give up.
Thank you for your information it was interesting
Thank you again
Burl............Hope to see you next year......
#3279 of 6854 Re: 2008 TAURUS [newcarforme]
Sep 13, 2007 (1:48 pm)
what other brand new engines have been made available from the competitors
guess you really didn't do much research did you? The 3.5 in the Avalon and the 3.8 in the Azera were both truly new ground up engines 3 and 2 years ago respectively and since you also mentioned the Maxima - no, that engine is almost as old as what you are calling the 'new' Ford engine, only that it remains a standard (kinda like the SOHC HondaV6) by which all engines of this size and type should be judged. And BTW all three of those cars you mentioned will leave your Taurus (but not your abandoned SS)in the dust.
#3280 of 6854 Re: 2008 TAURUS [tjc78]
Sep 13, 2007 (2:37 pm)
Sounds like a wash to me.
#3281 of 6854 Re: 2008 TAURUS [joel0622]
Sep 13, 2007 (2:48 pm)
Spoken like a true Ford salesman! Of course it depends how long you keep it. Two or three years and the Avalon wins 5-6+ your right a wash.
#3282 of 6854 Re: 2008 TAURUS [tjc78]
Sep 13, 2007 (2:57 pm)
Unless you are in the market for a 2 year old pre owned then you are a big winner.
I honestly think that the trend of the Honda holding its value will continue. The Toyota as they continue to try to be #1 every month will see values slip, the laws of supply and demand will catch up. That and the fact that they have in a way ruined there mystic of being able to brag about not needing big incentives with the Tundra. They jumped in with both feet there with the big rebates and low rates. If the race for #1 continues and the Sedan market gets competitive again they may follow.
#3283 of 6854 Re: Taurus vs Avalon [jimmy2x]
Sep 13, 2007 (4:26 pm)
"at least the Taurus isn't saddled with that bloody awful blond-colored faux wood"
The Graphite (dark grey) interior of the 05-07 Avalons had darker wood. Not quite as nice as the '08s but not as bad as the blond wood (IMO). I actually went against my normal beige interior for this reason.