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Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#3251 of 6854 Re: Taurus vs Avalon [alexstore]
Sep 13, 2007 (7:31 am)
Avalon has better fuel economy than the new Taurus?? Most likely, but after driving a 2008 Taurus over 1,400 miles with a 75% highway and 25% city combination, I would say 28.8MPG average is not too shabby for the 3.5L DOHC V6. Before you slam the new Taurus, I would suggest some serious seat time in the car. This new engine has got some serious horsepower and torque, and the new GM/Ford-designed 6-speed automatic is seamless.
#3252 of 6854 Re: Taurus vs Avalon [colloquor]
Sep 13, 2007 (7:48 am)
Completely agree. The new Taurus is NOTHING like the 500. It's sooooooo much improved.
#3253 of 6854 Re: Taurus vs Avalon [newcarforme]
Sep 13, 2007 (7:59 am)
The new Taurus is NOTHING like the 500.
Except for the exterior. And the interior...
Improved, yes, but it is still much the same car as the 500 (that's not a terrible thing).
#3254 of 6854 Re: Taurus vs Avalon [colloquor]
Sep 13, 2007 (8:05 am)
yep. your 28 mpg would definitely be in Avalon territory. My Avalon has been doing things like this for over 50k miles now but only gets up to 28 or 29 overall if I hold my highway speeds down to 65 or 70 and/or the city driving is not really city (on a 70-30 mix). Curious what the DT3.5 is turning at a constant 70? In the Avalon,it is 2100 rpm...
#3255 of 6854 Re: Taurus vs Avalon [captain2]
Sep 13, 2007 (8:07 am)
Both the DT 3.5 and the 2GR in the Avalon have ratings of 28 MPG highway. The Avalon does one better (19 vs. 18) in town. So, similar mileage is to be expected.
#3256 of 6854 Re: Taurus vs Avalon [newcarforme]
Sep 13, 2007 (8:40 am)
The Kool Aid over at Ford must be great, because many are drinking it. The Taurus is nothing more than a mid cycle freshening of the 500. A new engine (that was supposed to be there all along), revised suspension, and the Fusion grill. Hardly nothing like the 500. The 500 was such a marketing disaster that Ford thought the only way to save the vehicle was to give it a familar name (that was in the toilet due to being king of the rental car lots). Overall, decent car, but destined for failure, low resale value, and will inevitably be at your local Avis by year end. Its a shame, because it has a Volvo chassis, alot of room and now capable power. However, the damage is done.
#3257 of 6854 Re: Five Hund.....er Taurus VS Avalon [captain2]
Sep 13, 2007 (8:46 am)
"One other thing I've noticed is that Ford seems reticient to give upon those ugly green leds especially on secondary controls"
I do love the dash in my Avalon, its so easy to read in any lighting conditions. A big improvement even compared to my previous Toyotas. Most American makes are still using the older style lighting, they will catch up sooner or later.
#3258 of 6854 2008 Avalon vs Detroit
Sep 13, 2007 (9:49 am)
I sold cars for 30+ years (Chrysler & Toyota). Detroit deserves what it is getting and are going BROKE or have already been BROKE .
They have shown no interest or ability to compete
in the past 20 years of watching their Market share go to almost nothing (GM I believe was about 48% at high now 28% .... #'s may not be exact but at least in the Neighborhood) Same for the other Detroit Idiots.
I would prefer to Buy Detroit iron just because I grew up in them if for no other reason................................As hard as it is for me to believe it Hyundi has gone from junk to an apparently
Major competior in (4-5 Years?) Starting at O sales.!!!!!!!
How can that many executives, designers , workers Manage to run off a past custimor base that loved them and would never Change ( even bought much that they new was not as good as their competitors).
Hey... beat me in the head with a 2X4 and I will eventually get the idea...as have nany many oyhers
My 2008 Avalon will be here in 2 weeks ,,,,on which I am trading my 2004 valon on which I traded my 2001 Alavon........can hardly wait for the 2011's to come out New body and whole new line of engines getting 10% more mileage and 10% more power ( on which I will be able to trade BECAUSE OF THE VERY HIGH RESALE)
Hopeing to see Detroit getting vey very competitive .......Again
I drove most every thing available and thank god they are getting more competitive but Still not even close except for the few die hards left.
Actually I would Put the Camory in the slot in discussion ..........
not the Avalon.............which is the Camory is Disamating them already.
I sold over well over 4000 cars in 30 years
While I believe the Difference is much closer than it has been in many Years.............The Boy's in detroit have caused themselves an almost insurmontable problem.
2 weeks I can hardly wait
#3259 of 6854 Re: Taurus vs Avalon [tjc78]
Sep 13, 2007 (10:50 am)
As I recall the 500 also had a CVT which has been replaced with a six speed automatic. That being said the looks of the car, especially the exterior really do nothing to excite me. Sort of reminds me of the wife's 80's Tempo.
Sep 13, 2007 (11:01 am)
For those of you who are obviously clueless as to what the new Taurus is really about. I'll give you a little insight. Despite the fact that I'm technically challenged in discussing comparable specs, engine displacement,etc. I will give you my 2 cents. I started y car search in Dec. 2006 originally researching every square inch of the Impala SS.
At the time, the SS was the large sedan I was most interested in. I researched every square inch of that car till I knew it like the back of my hand. Well, due to circumstances out of my control, the deal to finally purchase the ar of my dreams fell through in April of 07. At that time I decided to broaden my horizons and I was determined to complete hands on research to every large sedan falling anywhere between $26 - $40,000. To make a long story short, the Azera, Lucerne, Maxima and Avalon were the vehicles most scrutinized. I was finally ready to but again in July of 07.
Because of the rebates, I came to the conclusion that the 500 I had ignored for so long would be worth taking a look at. I rented a limited for a week and to my surprise the ride was very better than I thought. The Ford gives you a secure feeling missing in the other large sedans.
Of course, I was very unhappy with the lack of engine power, so I decided to wait for the new Taurus. Fast forward one month later and wow. The new Taurus was much, much more refined, the ride was much smoother and the new engine combined with the new 6 speed trans. made this car the obvious choice. I can't explain it but this vehicle gives you that older lincoln feeling - making you feel you're on top of the world with a bit better handling.
In closing, I will say please do not judge the Taurus until you drive one. I went ahead and went car shopping with my father last weekend. We test drove a Mercedes E class and after being unimpressed, my father even stated that the Taurus was a much better ride!
Here are some pics - http://www.myford500.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9847
PS - I was completely unimpressed with the Azera. As bad as I wanted to be.