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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#3060 of 6854 Re: 2007 Buick LUCERNE [jimmy2x]
Aug 27, 2007 (3:36 am)
It should be a civil conversation. We all get a little intense sometimes, but that is what makes it fun. I have my opinions of which vehicles are better and express them quite frequently. Having said that you can't go wrong with almost any car in this discussion. The only one I would stay away from would be the base Impala and I don't know much about the KIA. I haven't driven a Taurus yet, but did drive the 500 and the only thing that car lacked was power. The Taurus seems to have corrected that.
If I were interested in SUVs the Enclave (Acadia too) would definately be on my list.
#3061 of 6854 Re: 2007 Buick LUCERNE [jimmy2x]
Aug 27, 2007 (3:41 am)
Well jimmy my guess a more powerful engine will be available in the near future for these vehicles. Though GM shares 3.6 in variety of cars/ SUVs, I believe that in a 5000 lb vehicle it is out of place. BTW where were you? I was CUV shopping this weekend too for my wife.
#3062 of 6854 Re: 2007 Buick LUCERNE [cobrazera]
Aug 27, 2007 (4:03 am)
"I have to assume that the Chrysler numbers you cite are the SRT8 versions of the 300 and Dodge cars; they are very quick cars"
The SRT8s (300, Charger, Magnum, Grand Cherokee) are very quick with those 425 HP 6.1 liter Hemis. A friend traded his 300C for a 300C SRT. The difference: The regular 300C (5.7 liter 340 HP Hemi) has a more luxurious ride, the SRT is more stiffly suspended. He liked the ride in the 300C better, but the SRT is faster and corners better. The SRT versions carry a gas guzzler tax. I would have to say the 300 with the 3.5 liter V6 and the 300C are "mainstream sedans". The SRT is closer to a street legal race car.
#3063 of 6854 Re: 2007 Buick LUCERNE [smithed]
Aug 27, 2007 (4:22 am)
The Chrysler 6 and the small 8's are very anemic...Chevy is going to a gunfight with a knife in the Impala SS..Mainstream sedans are sedans....the only difference is the power, suspension and options...The SS is the top of the line Impala and it pales against the other top of the line "sedans" in the group...it's very much like the "racer boy" Monte Carlo SS...All bark and no bite....
#3064 of 6854 Re: 2007 Buick LUCERNE 
Aug 27, 2007 (4:51 am)
While I am the first to knock the Impala for various reasons it is a quick machine. What other vehicle in this group besides the Chrysler will beat it? My Avalon is a couple ticks behind in 0 - 60, I am willing to make that tradeoff because I feel the Avalon is a better all around vehicle. However, to say the SS is "all bark and no bite" is wrong. It will smoke a lot of "sports" cars in a straight line, now when things get curvy that all changes as all that weight on the front wheels isn't good.
#3065 of 6854 Re: 2008 Honda Accord [thegraduate]
Aug 27, 2007 (4:56 am)
I'm sorry, you're right...I was thinking of the last Accord.
So the Accord has 5 more ponies, but still...lacks the interior space the Azera has.
#3066 of 6854 Re: 2008 Honda Accord [allmet33]
Aug 27, 2007 (7:24 am)
But the bottom line is...
The Accord was never intended to be an Azera competitor just like even Sonata can be classified as a large car it is not out to compete with other large cars.
Although size is a factor to classify cars but it is not the most important. The most important factor is a car's intended market. Currently Honda is still selling the Accord as a midsizer and aiming straight at the Camry and Altima.
#3067 of 6854 Re: 2008 Honda Accord [louiswei]
Aug 27, 2007 (7:30 am)
You are really making this more difficult than it has to be.
How bout we just end this discussion for the sake everyone is going to have their own point of view and none of them will change reality.
#3068 of 6854 Re: 2008 Honda Accord [allmet33]
Aug 27, 2007 (7:38 am)
Good idea - let's get back on topic.
#3069 of 6854 Re: 2008 Honda Accord [allmet33]
Aug 27, 2007 (7:39 am)
Actually I was done with this discussion long ago until someone kept bringing up that the Accord is this HP less than the Azera or this cubic feet less than the Azera...
Now I am done.