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Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#2256 of 6854 Re: ... [plekto]
May 17, 2007 (3:13 am)
I had the opportunity to test drive the 2008 Sable as well as the Lucerne, Avalon and 300.
The Avalon was a way too mushy ride. Just did not feel "secure" in the driver's seat driving twisting and turning roads. The 300 visibility out the front just plain sucked. Power wasn't all that great and neither was the ride. The Buick -- while it had enough get up and go -- the interior styling is still GM -- and looks dated. The Sable with the 3.5 had a significantly noticeable increase in HP compared to the 2005-2007 Montegos (I own a 2005). The handling and suspension were to my taste (stiffer and more responsive) than the Toyota.
For the money -- and features -- the Sable is a Way better buy - hands down. The only thing I did not like in the 2008 (saw several) were some of the interior color combinations -- they made the interior look cheap.
Before you bash the 2008 - test drive it -- they have taken the HP / Power issue out of the mix. My only complaint is that they did away with the CVT.
#2257 of 6854 Re: ... [diecast61]
May 17, 2007 (5:35 am)
Which version of the Avalon did you drive? The touring model has the stiffest suspension.
My question is this, how firm of a ride are you expecting from a family touring sedan?
#2258 of 6854 Re: wow [plekto]
May 17, 2007 (5:46 am)
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...I would disagree with you there. I've had a few issues that came up that were major repairs when I had my '02 Sonata. My charging system wasn't acting right causing my car not to start from time to time when I would run A/C, wipers, headlights and stereo all at the same time. They replaced the battery 3 times and then ended up replacing the alternator due to a faulty regulator.
Then, I had a power steering hose burst. Took it in and they replaced it with no problem or hassle in any way.
I had a small issue with the manual shifting mode on the transmission with down shifts into 2nd gear. Found the problem to be a faulty sensor, they replaced the sensor...again, with no hassle.
I really think it depends on the dealership you go to. I've got two in my area that I go to that don't give any hassle or problems when you go in with problems on your vehicle. I have heard the horror stories where service departments will try and not honor the warranty by finding some loophole to get out of it. I've actually found the opposite with one of the dealerships I go to...they actually find a way to cover something under the warranty if it falls into a gray area.
Even by not transferring the remainder of the full warranty to the next owner, the next owner is still getting a good warranty what would rival the warranty of some new cars. What are you talking about? If you paid for the extended warranty and you trade the vehicle in before it actually would have kicked in, cancel it and get your money back.
#2263 of 6854 Re: wow [allmet33]
May 17, 2007 (1:37 pm)
So let's see:
- Bad alternator.
- Power steering hose burst.
- automanual had problems with the computers(big surprise anyone? Automanuals have been gremlin breeding pools since day 1)
The thing is that with most other makes, you won't have to deal with nearly as many repairs. In the end, it's close to a wash economically, but wasting my time at a dealership getting stuff fixed costs me time and money as well since most of my income comes from consulting and freelance work.
GMs tend to be bland and boring for the most part, but they are very much like a Timex watch. Cheap, reliable, and get the job done. Not much else. A perfect commuter car, especially if bought a year or two used. There's a real reason you see so many GM and Ford trucks being used by people for their work. They run, they work, and they don't generally break as often - or cost as much to fix when they do. The rest? If it has A/C and a stereo, most construction workers are happy.
#2264 of 6854 Re: ... [diecast61]
May 17, 2007 (4:12 pm)
"I had the opportunity to test drive the 2008 Sable as well as the Lucerne, Avalon and 300"
May I ask where you drove the Sable? According to the website neither the Sable or Taurus is available yet.
#2265 of 6854 Re: Why the Taurus or the Avalon? [fordenvy]
May 17, 2007 (4:23 pm)
"Toyota is around 75%".
This is incorrect. Toyota as a whole is nowhere near 75%; neither is the Avalon, for that matter.