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Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#2022 of 6854 Re: extra gears for peaky motors [captain2]
Apr 30, 2007 (8:46 am)
Well the RWD Lucerne, will likely not make it to market until 2010, as a 2011 model. The Buick Velite Sedan could be here in 09' as a 2010 model built on the Zeta, archetecture. I would assume a Convertible will be out at the same time or the year after.
So yeah the 3.6 would be a better choice.
The Lucerne should have this line-up.
CX- 3800 V6 197-205 hp.
CXL- 3.6 "High Feature" V6 with 255 hp.
CXS- 4.6 Northstar with 292hp
Super- 320hp Northstar V8
#2023 of 6854 Re: extra gears for peaky motors [rockylee]
Apr 30, 2007 (8:59 am)
the V8 is a Northstar 'cammer' as opposed to the older pushrod V8 like is in the Impala? Didn't know that. The Northstar, IMO, one of GMs better efforts but does have HP and Torque characteristics similar to these high efficiency V6s. By the tone of some of these posts lately, I guess, a 20 speed auto, should be needed , that engine much much too 'peaky'
#2024 of 6854 Re: extra gears for peaky motors [captain2]
Apr 30, 2007 (9:10 am)
I'll go for that, the cars have grown a bit.
#2025 of 6854 Re: extra gears for peaky motors [rockylee]
Apr 30, 2007 (9:16 am)
Four engine choices? That would cost GM even more money. They lose on every car as it is. What I would do is:
Kill the 3.8
Standard on all models 3.6
CXS or Super 320 HP Northstar option. Why do you need two V8's only 20 or so HP apart?
#2026 of 6854 Re: extra gears for peaky motors [captain2]
Apr 30, 2007 (9:33 am)
I've got to agree with the captain with respect to the 3.8 and cruise control. I rented a brand new Grand Prix last weekend with the 3.8 series III. Not only did the car need to downshift on moderate hills when using cruise control, it had the maddening habit of needing to downshift when commanded to accelerate when using the cruise control. The downshifts were smooth enough, but the is not the kind of sophistication you'ld expect in the 21st century.
#2027 of 6854 saw an ad this AM
Apr 30, 2007 (10:34 am)
advertising the Five Hundred at $6000.00 discounts! Guess this means that Ford finally has the 'Taurus' ready?
#2028 of 6854 Ford Five Hundred
Apr 30, 2007 (10:51 am)
In sunday's paper the local Ford/Mercury dealer had the Ford Five Hundred-Freestyle-Mercury Montego at $4000 below invoice. Going to be hard to move them after the 08's show up.
Apr 30, 2007 (11:01 am)
I'll tell you - the CXS doesn't DRIVE like it has only 20 more HP. Go drive one today - no really. Go drive it.
Your jaw will drop - it's just nothing like a typical Buick.(basically it's a Buick DTS with the sport package - just for a LOT less than the Cadillac DTS)
I have it on my top 5 list for cars to get this fall. And this despite the fact that I swore I'd never own a car with an automatic again.
#2031 of 6854 Re: Ford Five Hundred [donl1]
Apr 30, 2007 (11:09 am)
had thought that the Taurus was supposed to be available this month, guess Ford's running late again. You're right an extra 60 hp and hopefully a little more refinement could make that car a reasonable choice IMO. You would think that they would allow for a little extra time to clear the lots - maybe we'll see the Taurus in July or so and Ford doesn't have to 'sell' the cars that cheaply?