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Buick Lucerne, Chevrolet Impala, Dodge Charger, Ford Taurus, Hyundai Azera, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#1955 of 6854 Press Request- Buick Loyalists & New to Buick
by Karen@Edmunds HOST
Apr 25, 2007 (5:43 am)
A reporter is hoping to talk with Buick Lucerne owners who never before owned a Buick. Please reply to ctalatiedmunds.com no later than Thursday, May 10, 2007 with your daytime contact info and a few words about your experience.
A reporter is hoping to talk with Buick Lucerne owners who are long-time Buick loyalists. Please reply to ctalatiedmunds.com no later than Thursday, May 10, 2007 with your daytime contact info and a few words about your experience.
#1956 of 6854 Re: Sedan comparisons [captain2]
Apr 25, 2007 (5:48 am)
To a degree I would agree, but for cars packing 200+ hp, it's a non-issue as we know all of them can pretty much merge into highway traffic with ease. It's the smaller 4 bangers (some) that would be the rule in this case.
It's funny, but when I was driving my grossly underpowered '87 Excel, I NEVER had a problem with merging into highway traffic. It's a matter of knowing your vehicle and doing so at a moment that provides you with a safe merge.
The problem is too many folks want to use that hp to stick themselves into traffic regardless of whether traffic affords the opportunity or not. I see folks driving Accents, Corollas, Sentras, Versas, all those sub-compact cars with tiny little 4 bangers that can merge into traffic with no problems.
#1957 of 6854 Re: ... [captain2]
Apr 25, 2007 (6:06 am)
No, you are right its not a sports sedan. However, I do think that it strikes a good balance between a soft ride (mine is an XLS) and handling. Its been a while now but I did drive a Touring and don't remember it being that much firmer than the XLS/Limited. I never drove an XL but would suspect that with 16" rims and taller tires that it would ride softer than the rest.
#1958 of 6854 Re: ... [tjc78]
Apr 25, 2007 (7:01 am)
had an XL rental for a period of time a did find the XL substantially softer - but you may be right - a function of the tire size, assume yours is also the 215/55/17 Michelins?
#1961 of 6854 Re: ... [captain2]
Apr 25, 2007 (7:31 am)
Same size but mine came with the Bridgestones. They are just OK. Pretty noisy on the highway and aren't wearing that well.
#1962 of 6854 Re: Sedan comparisons [allmet33]
Apr 25, 2007 (7:52 am)
an simple comparison of HP/lb. in my mind can help us decide when accelerative power is sufficient or marginal.
The Avalon, Azera, Maxima (as well as those Detroit V8s) will all figure at about 13 lbs/HP (or better) and therefore have similarily quick accelerative capabilities. It is those Lucerne 3.8s and 500s that have to pull 18-19 lbs or so, that don't accelerate nearly as well. Your point about adjusting to what you got is right on, it wasn't until recently that cars like these (6 sec+) even existed. Sometimes I wonder how we made it thru the 80s and 90s with the selection of relative 'dogs' available to us? Suggest to you that had Hyundai decided to put that older 194hp 3.5 in the Azera or Toyota had stuck with the 200hp 3.0, we would have the same 'problem' as the Lucerne and 500.
#1963 of 6854 Re: Sedan comparisons [captain2]
Apr 25, 2007 (10:23 am)
Yeah...looking at what is avaiable today, compared to 10 years ago...it is amazing we made it.
Even with the Lucerne and the 500 using underpowered powerplants, the power is still sufficient to merge into traffic safely. Then again, offering an underpowered engine isn't so bad because there are plenty of folks that seem to be scared to push the gas pedal! LOL
It's truly funny to see someone pay $50K+ for a high powered sports car...say a Vette and do the speed limit and watch a $10K sub-compact barrel down the highway at speeds in excess of 80 mph.
#1964 of 6854 Re: Sedan comparisons [allmet33]
Apr 25, 2007 (11:19 am)
Even with the Lucerne and the 500 using underpowered powerplants, the power is still sufficient to merge into traffic safely
well, I guess, this might be where we disagree - but, then again, we both might be just a little spoiled? I drive usually between 4-500 miles per week, and would guess that there are a handful of times (5 or less) that I actually use a good part of the power my Avalon has. To me, that is enough to justify the 268 hp. Could I adjust to a 3.8 or a DT3.0, sure - but not without some wincing.