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Re: Piece of Junk [goatgirl26] by spnkygrn
Sep 22, 2009 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: goatgirl26 (Sep 21, 2009 11:16 am)

Got bad news for you. Just checked auto-trader for trade in value, 2003 freelander $2200.00. I've been trying the last 2 wks to get something new for nothing, I still owe $8k on the loan. Tip: if you have a loan on your freelander, ur better off not paying the loan off, go to a dealer of the new vehicle you want, tell them the bank story and that it runs fine(they know about the freelander) and let them work the best deal/trade-in on new that you can afford, then spring on them any additional down payment money you have. Yeah, you'll still be paying off the excess of the original loan on the back end of the new vehicle deal, but for every $1,000 you can throw on the table "after" they've given you their best offer on the vehicle of your choice, you'll reduce your monthly payment by $30. May not sound like much but I just had Kia throw both a Sorento and Sportage at me w/payments of $495/$499 respectively, with $500 dwn, then with $3,000 suddenly appearing out of an account I could have a $400 monthly payment which is only $70 more than I'm paying now on the loan and the Mogi extended warranty.($223 + $107). Not sure it would work better the other way. I'm still contacting LR, Sec Trans, Commerce, Pres Obama, NHTSA, BB, and all local network affiliates. Don't know what it will do, but I have nothing to loose.
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Re: Piece of Junk [spnkygrn] by jj1321
Sep 22, 2009 (8:36 pm)
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Replying to: spnkygrn (Sep 22, 2009 6:19 pm)

I have been in the process of trying to get a new vehicle...just letting the bank take the car back...it hasn't been an easy process and being a single parent money doesn't come easy...I think contacting all the media is a good thing, someone needs to let them know what Land Rover is doing to all us comsumers..
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Re: How many of you have a problem with the Freelander? [spnkygrn] by steve_ HOST
Sep 24, 2009 (9:56 pm)
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Replying to: spnkygrn (Sep 12, 2009 7:19 pm)

Shame on Ford Motor Company who owns Landrover
 
Ford sold Land Rover to Tata back in March, 2008. link
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Is there a chance anyone can help with lawsuits won against Landrover? by ccb4
Sep 25, 2009 (2:23 am)
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I am searching for info on lawsuits won against Landrover and recall information on Freelanders, specifically 2002 SE models.
 
I have a true mudpuddle in that engine noise, windows and sunroof have a mind of their own, the muffler blew smoke for two miles and I thought it was on fire (but it just blew a hole in the muffler large enough to put my hand in there after I paid $60 for them to tell me that I had emission problems and $700.00 repairs to the coolant system), and ty rods and bearings are making noise.
 
In Minnesota, when it gets cold, the transmission runs through several codes if you drive it without warming the engine to the point of burning enough gas to get to work before leaving the driveway. The fuel pump recall was installed, but I still call it my slurpee because it uses gas so fast, and the engine coolant system is a real screamer.
 
The cost of this is not just ridiculous, it is an insult. Landrover dealers are so insulting to deal with on this vehicle it is embarrassing. Can anyone tell me if there are options others have used to make the dealers honor fixing this horrid thing? Is there anything that I can join in to make the Landrover manufacturer repair their mud puddle? One thing ruins another along the way and it has just kept going. Help!
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Re: Piece of Junk [cwoolner] by goatgirl26
Sep 28, 2009 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: cwoolner (Sep 21, 2009 2:56 pm)

After reading all of the posts in here, I have to assume that my coolant must be leaking into the oil, too; hence the sludge. Was told that if the coolant was leaking into the oil, the oil would be a milky color. Is this true? Did anyone's (whose had this problem) oil turn a milky color, or is it just a silent killer?
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Re: Piece of Junk [goatgirl26] by cwoolner
Sep 28, 2009 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: goatgirl26 (Sep 28, 2009 12:10 pm)

goatgirl26:
 
My oil never turned milky. I was checking it almost daily for a change or sludge starting to form and I never had any of it though I was filling the coolant container weekly or more. Yours does have sludge?
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Re: Piece of Junk [cwoolner] by goatgirl26
Sep 28, 2009 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: cwoolner (Sep 28, 2009 5:40 pm)

My coolant has also been leaking regularly and there has been no change to the oil color or evidence of sludge. My check oil light came on last week. Took it to the dealer mechanic and was told by him (after he took off the oil fill cap and looked into the oil resevoir with a flash light), that the engine is full of sludge and needs to be replaced. (For his expert diagnosis (and time of 15 seconds) I was charged $65.
 
Just had the timing belt and other things done in November (by my regular mechanic). He had the valve covers off at that time and said the inside actually looked pretty good. Although, the coolant didn't start leaking until Feb/March of this year.
 
So I'm not really sure. Is the engine really coated with sludge? Can that really be diagnosed by looking into the oil with a flash light? Do I really want to pay for "more detailed expert diagnosis" just to be told, "yes, indeed, the engine needs to be replaced."? If the engine does really have sludge in it, is there anything (cheap) that can be done to limp it along, so that I can at least get a little
bit of money for it as a trade in before it totally dies?
 
I am officially uninvited to ever again returning to the LR dealership in Sarasota, FL, as of today. Was told by the service manager that they don't want customers like me (customers who ask questions and don't just blindly fork over thier credit cards at any monetary charges they throw out).
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Re: Piece of Junk [goatgirl26] by mom62650
Sep 30, 2009 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: goatgirl26 (Sep 28, 2009 7:14 pm)

Did you get that in writing that it needed a new engine? I would gladly pay the $65 to be told that at this point.
 
I have been in contact with the lawyer mentioned above, and have been told to the get " it needs a new engine" from a dealer. My problem is that the nearest dealer is 100 miles away, and I am not sure if the vehicle will make it!
 
My selling dealer (used) told me the wholesale value of the car is $5000 -- What do you think the odds are that a LR dealer would give you that for this POS? I already had a service manager tell me to NOT repair the vehicle just based on the timing belt issue. Wish I had that on paper.
 
Just count me another very unhappy Freelander owner.
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Re: HELP! [seventhson74] by seventhson74
Nov 21, 2009 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: seventhson74 (Jul 23, 2009 2:55 pm)

So, it's 4 months later and I thought I would give you an update. We have been unable to deal with the dealer so we've gone to Land Rover corporate. They actually havn't been that bad but really slow. I have had to continue to make payments on this truck and it's still taking up allot of space in my driveway. Landrover has mentioned that they are willing to pay for a replacement engine if I will pick up the cost of labor. They will also give us a year warranty on the engine. This has been going on for over 2 months now. I don't know how close we are to getting this resolved, but I just want to get this monthly payment out of my life! I need something reliable to cart my 2 kids around and Land Rover has proven that they are not reliable.
Facebook is the next great place for advertisers. In that spirit I started a 'Land Rovers suck' group. I would like to invite anyone on this forum who is also on facebook to join and share their experiences so that more people can see that the issue wasn't due to a couple of poorly made vehicals in the line, but the whole line of Freelanders are defective!
The group can be found at http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=137135680008
please share your experience!

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