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Land Rover Freelander, Car Safety, Auto Repair, Car Warranties, SUV
Sep 04, 2009 (6:28 am)
I bought a 2003 freelander used for my daughter 4 years ago -- it sure was a darn cute car for a high school girl -- this was the two door version in bright yellow. As a freshman in college -- she started to have engine heating problems. She was 3 hours away and at the mercy of the local repair shops. $1200 later she had replaced some fans and the temperature gauge. At the time I was concerned that the overheating may have caused additional damage, but she loved the car and I was too lazy to investigate trading for another vehicle. THen,l less than a year later, she was telling me the engine was overheating again -- and was told it needed a water pump/timing belt -- for another $1500. Some other drama in between, but I ended up considering towing the car to St.Louis to the Land Rover dealer. They quoted me $3500 for the repair, but talking to the manager of the repair dept. suggested I junk the car as the engine had known problems, and the repair was more than the vehicle was worth. WTF?? The engine had defects, and all the owners are losers, not the dealers who sold this vehicle or did not initiate recalls on the overheating issues.
I'd be interested in some real life solutions -- I don't think the "lemon laws" apply in my circumstance as the problems happened when the car was out of warranty. As this is a consistent problem with this engine, has there been any luck with a class action suit?? Any recommendations?
A legal firm specializing in Lemon Laws suggested I check the NHTSA website re: defect investigations. I filed a complaint. I'm not sure if it helps, but a breakdown in traffic is not "safe" and I would think if everyone who has had an engine problem would file a report -- they might initiate an investigation.
#259 of 295 Re: HELP! [jj1321]
Sep 06, 2009 (5:42 am)
Mine has the same "diesel sound." It's actually NOT anything too horrible. It's the butterfly on the intake inlet. It does warrant some work to be done, but the noise is just a non-detrimental rattle.
#260 of 295 02 SE Trouble Maker
Sep 06, 2009 (6:04 am)
I purchased, without re-searching of course, an 02 Freebie SE, and two months later- BAM, transmission. Two days after getting it back from the trans shop, BAM, transfer case... since getting it back from the shop(which couldn't fix their way out of a paper sack), I've had intake issues(the infamous butterfly rattle), exhaust issues(repair shop reinstalled one of the pipes backwards creating an awful buzz on deceleration),loose brake calipers(probably the repair shop), coolant leak(just an O-ring on the temp sensor), and my SRS light is on. I have no idea why that light is on. All I know, is I haven't even owned this vehicle for a year, and it's already cost me more in repairs, than I paid for the vehicle to begin with. I strongly urge any other Freelander owners to dump their vehicle on ANY OTHER vehicle.... if you love Rovers, get a Disco II, or a Range.. if not- go Jeep!
#261 of 295 Re: HELP! [seventhson74]
Sep 12, 2009 (6:24 pm)
Hey, I feel you're pain. I bought a 03' in 07' with 72K got the off dealer to replace the timing belt as a part of the purchase cause I had called around to shops about issues. Well, that was only the beginning. First the dealer sells me an extended warranty (Royal Adminstration Services) for 2K which when the first 3 repairs started they tried to dodge paying but ultimately were informed by the dealer the issues were covered items. But the rental doesn't kick in until you've got a confirmation# which means it's a covered item. One prob w/that, doesn't cover your need for transportation when u r informed by "warning lites" of issues and initially drop the car off with the repair shop. They've got to diagnose the issue first. Anyway, back to the piece of Junk, Landrover knows about the problem but appear to being doing very little. Class Action attorney Howard Gutman(Flanders, NJ ) in my opinion isn't vigorous enough for people who have been significantly inconvenienced by the non operation of this vehicle or its inherent desire to continuously require repair for no apparent reason. I've had same issues as you but also include, door lock inop, window motors, torque convertor motor, air induction, air intakes and whatever makes the trans display: F 4 flashing alternately while driving with both serv eng lites on. It's in the shop again right now, 14 times in 27 months!!!!!HELP!!!!!
#262 of 295 Re: Don't know what my options are.... [jj1321]
Sep 12, 2009 (6:44 pm)
Howard Gutman, Flanders, NJ is the Class Action attorney for Freelander issues. I will reserve my opinion of his effective pursuit on injured parties behalf and the initial blurt out of what sort of monetary compensation I might look forward to in regard to a vehicle(in the care of the mechanic at this posting) and not in my driveway, as one would expect from supposedly quality vehicle. I've had the temp gauge issue twice and I ride around with coolant in the back as well just in case. 14 times in 27 months this vehicle's been in the shop. And from what I find on these forums, the Freelander's been a long standing problem that Landrover has known about for quite sometime if not its creation.They're owned by Ford Motor Co.don't know what that means other than a company that touts itself as being there for Americans, building reliable,safe efficient, yaddy,yaddy ya and they're some kind of way connected to this. I'd say give Gutman a call, check yellowpages online for #, let me know what happens. I think I'm going to put a zip folder together to send to the local network affiliates consumer watch/issues in hopes of getting Today Show coverage if we can organize, because getting people out of an existing loan should be the least that Landrover should offer to do. Again, that my opinion, and I've owned cars costing less that were more reliable. Wish I had one of them now.
#264 of 295 Re: How many of you have a problem with the Freelander? [smithspeech]
Sep 12, 2009 (7:19 pm)
Howard Gutman, Flanders, NJ....Not impressed so far with his initial contact and surmization of what I can expect from Landrover in regard to a car that's been in the shop 14 times in 27 months with minimal daily drivng. I thought these were all wheel, all terrain only ones still made in America, but they apparently can't take daily driving by school teachers, nurses, clerks, stay at home moms.....etc so I find it hard to believe they can handle off road really. I don't know if we organized and got someone to vigorously and I do mean vigorously represent us to the point of making it to the Today Show and other network morning shows with this legitimate story of significant issues associated with this vehicle and a realistic expectation by the Secretary of Commerce or something that holds Landrover completely responsible and would actively anticipate their compensation of each and everyone who has been adversely affected by the purchase of this vehicle. I still owe 7K and not in a position with a 2 yr old to take too much more of a loss. It's just ridiculous and unAmerican. Shame on Ford Motor Company who owns Landrover