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Re: HELP! [cwoolner]
by jj1321
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Aug 18, 2009 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: cwoolner (Aug 17, 2009 3:01 pm)
Thank you for your advice...I think I may be stuck with this car. Don't really think I have many options considering I owe 10k and the car now sounds like a diesel truck, I can't afford to have a new engine replaced and why put money into this POS when it will just do it again. I am sure no dealership will take this car as is and letting it get sent back to the bank will just ruin my credit, which looks like what I may have to do. The cash for clunkers program will not work because you have to own the vehicle, title in hand. Thanks again.
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- #254 of 281
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Re: HELP! [jj1321]
by cwoolner
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Aug 18, 2009 (2:16 pm)
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Replying to: jj1321 (Aug 18, 2009 11:52 am)
I feel for you, I really do. I wish Land Rover would step up and make it right with everyone of the owners, past and present.
I didn't know the cash for clunkers needed title in hand... so that means they won't take trade ins? Seems to defeat the purpose. But I think the mileage may have been a factor too. I thought my sticker had mileage at 18 city/ 21 highway.
Wish you the best!
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Re: HELP! [cwoolner]
by jj1321
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Aug 19, 2009 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: cwoolner (Aug 18, 2009 2:16 pm)
Actually, the car does qualify...it only gets 17 mpg...would have been able to get 3500 for trade in....your right, it does defeat the purpose. Thanks again for your response.
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Re: HELP! [jj1321]
by winezealott
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Aug 23, 2009 (3:34 pm)
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Replying to: jj1321 (Aug 18, 2009 11:52 am)
Not sure if you read my posting although its been several months ago that I posted it. I had to hire an atty who got LR North America to buy back my car. Please call them - you have nothing to lose. They may be able to help you.
Consumer Legal Services (310) 477-1474 (talk to Jenn or Nick)
I was in the same positioin as you and many others are - I got $20,000 for the car, and they paid the legal fees and my residual loan off seperately. I hope you get a resolution like I did.
Zayra Cabot
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- #257 of 281
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Re: HELP! [winezealott]
by jj1321
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Aug 26, 2009 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: winezealott (Aug 23, 2009 3:34 pm)
Thank you for the information......I will try and see what happens. What information did you need to give the attys? How long did the process take...I am currently without a car...and have to get rides from friends for work..sucks!! But thanks again for the information....
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Screwed also
by mom62650
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Sep 04, 2009 (6:28 am)
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I bought a 2003 freelander used for my daughter 4 years ago -- it sure was a darn cute car for a high school girl -- this was the two door version in bright yellow. As a freshman in college -- she started to have engine heating problems. She was 3 hours away and at the mercy of the local repair shops. $1200 later she had replaced some fans and the temperature gauge. At the time I was concerned that the overheating may have caused additional damage, but she loved the car and I was too lazy to investigate trading for another vehicle. THen,l less than a year later, she was telling me the engine was overheating again -- and was told it needed a water pump/timing belt -- for another $1500. Some other drama in between, but I ended up considering towing the car to St.Louis to the Land Rover dealer. They quoted me $3500 for the repair, but talking to the manager of the repair dept. suggested I junk the car as the engine had known problems, and the repair was more than the vehicle was worth. WTF?? The engine had defects, and all the owners are losers, not the dealers who sold this vehicle or did not initiate recalls on the overheating issues.
I'd be interested in some real life solutions -- I don't think the "lemon laws" apply in my circumstance as the problems happened when the car was out of warranty. As this is a consistent problem with this engine, has there been any luck with a class action suit?? Any recommendations?
A legal firm specializing in Lemon Laws suggested I check the NHTSA website re: defect investigations. I filed a complaint. I'm not sure if it helps, but a breakdown in traffic is not "safe" and I would think if everyone who has had an engine problem would file a report -- they might initiate an investigation.
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Re: HELP! [jj1321]
by gearjams
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Sep 06, 2009 (5:42 am)
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Replying to: jj1321 (Aug 18, 2009 11:52 am)
Mine has the same "diesel sound." It's actually NOT anything too horrible. It's the butterfly on the intake inlet. It does warrant some work to be done, but the noise is just a non-detrimental rattle.
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02 SE Trouble Maker
by gearjams
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Sep 06, 2009 (6:04 am)
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I purchased, without re-searching of course, an 02 Freebie SE, and two months later- BAM, transmission. Two days after getting it back from the trans shop, BAM, transfer case... since getting it back from the shop(which couldn't fix their way out of a paper sack), I've had intake issues(the infamous butterfly rattle), exhaust issues(repair shop reinstalled one of the pipes backwards creating an awful buzz on deceleration),loose brake calipers(probably the repair shop), coolant leak(just an O-ring on the temp sensor), and my SRS light is on. I have no idea why that light is on. All I know, is I haven't even owned this vehicle for a year, and it's already cost me more in repairs, than I paid for the vehicle to begin with. I strongly urge any other Freelander owners to dump their vehicle on ANY OTHER vehicle.... if you love Rovers, get a Disco II, or a Range.. if not- go Jeep!
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Re: HELP! [seventhson74]
by spnkygrn
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Sep 12, 2009 (6:24 pm)
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Replying to: seventhson74 (Jul 23, 2009 2:55 pm)
Hey, I feel you're pain. I bought a 03' in 07' with 72K got the off dealer to replace the timing belt as a part of the purchase cause I had called around to shops about issues. Well, that was only the beginning. First the dealer sells me an extended warranty (Royal Adminstration Services) for 2K which when the first 3 repairs started they tried to dodge paying but ultimately were informed by the dealer the issues were covered items. But the rental doesn't kick in until you've got a confirmation# which means it's a covered item. One prob w/that, doesn't cover your need for transportation when u r informed by "warning lites" of issues and initially drop the car off with the repair shop. They've got to diagnose the issue first. Anyway, back to the piece of Junk, Landrover knows about the problem but appear to being doing very little. Class Action attorney Howard Gutman(Flanders, NJ ) in my opinion isn't vigorous enough for people who have been significantly inconvenienced by the non operation of this vehicle or its inherent desire to continuously require repair for no apparent reason. I've had same issues as you but also include, door lock inop, window motors, torque convertor motor, air induction, air intakes and whatever makes the trans display: F 4 flashing alternately while driving with both serv eng lites on. It's in the shop again right now, 14 times in 27 months!!!!!HELP!!!!!
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Re: Don't know what my options are.... [jj1321]
by spnkygrn
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Sep 12, 2009 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: jj1321 (Aug 15, 2009 8:28 pm)
Howard Gutman, Flanders, NJ is the Class Action attorney for Freelander issues. I will reserve my opinion of his effective pursuit on injured parties behalf and the initial blurt out of what sort of monetary compensation I might look forward to in regard to a vehicle(in the care of the mechanic at this posting) and not in my driveway, as one would expect from supposedly quality vehicle. I've had the temp gauge issue twice and I ride around with coolant in the back as well just in case. 14 times in 27 months this vehicle's been in the shop. And from what I find on these forums, the Freelander's been a long standing problem that Landrover has known about for quite sometime if not its creation.They're owned by Ford Motor Co.don't know what that means other than a company that touts itself as being there for Americans, building reliable,safe efficient, yaddy,yaddy ya and they're some kind of way connected to this. I'd say give Gutman a call, check yellowpages online for #, let me know what happens. I think I'm going to put a zip folder together to send to the local network affiliates consumer watch/issues in hopes of getting Today Show coverage if we can organize, because getting people out of an existing loan should be the least that Landrover should offer to do. Again, that my opinion, and I've owned cars costing less that were more reliable. Wish I had one of them now.
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