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#222 of 295 2004 Freelander Intake Manifold Plenum
Mar 27, 2009 (10:10 am)
Hello - I recently noticed a fluttering noise coming from the engine compartment while at idle, but even more so when accelerating. The Land Rover dealership assessed the issue and diagnosed the problem being with the upper intake manifold being internally worn and that my vehicle needs an upper intake manifold plenum. The quote to fix the issue was $1900, which seems extremely high to me. Has anyone had any experience with this? Do you think a qualified mechanic could fix the problem for less? Thanks so much!
#223 of 295 Re: 2004 Freelander maintanence and repairs [smithspeech]
Apr 13, 2009 (11:05 am)
Hi - I've recently experienced a rattling from my engine and the dealership advised me I need to replace my Upper Intake Manifold Plenum. Would you mind sharing how much that repair set you back? I'm curious as to what a repair like that costs.
#224 of 295 Freelander - Manifold
Apr 22, 2009 (12:16 pm)
Sorry to hear about your car problem - I actually had my mechanic (who I've known for 10 years) tell me to have that checked out 2 years ago. I never did, then a coolant problem began that lasted for a year because of no resolution. Then my engine blew. I called an atty who got LR North America to buy back my car. These cars are problematic. Whether you bought it new or used, if you took it into the dealer for repairs while it was still under warranty and there are issues that were repaired more than once, the car is considered a lemon.
I can probably teach classes on Lemon Law at this point... Good luck with your car.
#225 of 295 Re: whoa, does anyone out there have a good Freelander except me? [tacoma_jim]
Apr 25, 2009 (4:46 am)
I felt the same way you did until my warranty expired last August (at 50k miles) and not even 2k miles after that the rear differential had to be fixed. I've had it in the shop more times in the last 6 months than I ever had it in there for the 4.5 years I've had it now. I have a 2004 SE with just over 59K miles now and the service engine light has been on for 2 weeks. I need to take it in but I'm scared of what the "problem" will be this time. I'm just counting down the days to build up enough money for a down payment on another car to trade this is before the engine goes (as seems to be the case with our trusty Landy's). I wanted to keep this truck for a long time... but the maintenance costs are just way too expensive!
I hope yours stays good and trusty. They are very nice trucks other wise!
Apr 28, 2009 (9:07 am)
This is so frustrating reading all of this. I too have the coolant leak, now it is a major coolant leak. I was told by LR Bedford that it wasn't headgasket that it is most likely a hose. My ex-husband is a master Subaru mechanic and is currently trying to fix it. I need to fix it so I can trade the piece of crap in. I can't afford to take it to the dealership because it will drain me. I was told that there is now a fuel pump recall out for all of you who might be experiencing fueling issues.
I owe more than what its worth and I can't imagine any dealership wanting to take it as a trade after reading these forums!
#227 of 295 Re: Head Gasket Failure
Apr 28, 2009 (9:40 am)
Well took the LR in to the shop today after having the service engine light on. I was driving into work and the temp guage spiked up and then went back down again. Just got the call that the coolant has mixed in with the oil... they can't specifically say it's the head gaskets yet because they have to tear into the engine to diagnose it... Then if it is, after 10 hours of labor and an estimated bill of $1937 it would be put back together. Worst case scenario: the engine sleeve is slipping... resulting in a new engine needed. The service guy also mentioned the heater core was leaking coolant. Any suggestions on that?? Is it related to the head gaskets?
I mentioned to the technician that this is a common problem with the Freelanders. His response?? "Yes, we have had to repair several Freelanders for the same problem." I asked if LRNA was doing anything about it, recalling the vehicles and he said No.
Is anyone going forward with a class action lawsuit? What kind of attorney should I try to seek out for professional guidance? It seems that what I've read on here the only time action gets taken is once the engine actually fails.
Please advise if you can. Thank you.
Apr 28, 2009 (11:36 am)
My problem started with the coolant leak that lasted for 1 1/2 yrs that my mechanic nor dealership could resolve. When it began, my mechanic installed 2 thermostats and when the car continued with the leak, he told me to take it to the dealer because he couldn't figure it out. After taking it to the dealer 3 times with no resolution, they blew up the engine on the 3rd visit after I in fact drove the damn car on the lot! All in all, I finally got my resolution yesterday when I drove to my Lemon Law attorney's office to pick up the check from LR North America, who agreed to do a purchase buy-back and gave me $19,995, wrote a seperate check to pay off my loan which was $6,200, and wrote yet another check to my atty for their fees (which is the law).
I encourage you to call my attorney - not sure where you're located but really helped me when no other atty I spoke to would. They have offices all over the country as well - check out their website at lemonauto.com/lemonlaw.
Consumer Legal Services, LLC
(888) 435-1474 - Nick Nita (handled my case)
I truly mean this when I say I wish you luck with your car. I know exactly how you feel.
#229 of 295 Re: UGGH [winezealott]
Apr 28, 2009 (11:55 am)
Did the engine have to blow BEFORE you can claim it's a lemon? Did you pay to have anything fixed or what happened after they blew the engine for you? Was the fact they blew the engine the key to your success?
#230 of 295 Re: freelander transmission [cwoolner]
Apr 30, 2009 (4:13 pm)
The Class action lawsuit is being handled by Howard Gutman out of NJ. google him & you can find out how to get in touch with him. I would post his number but, I don't think that is allowed.
#231 of 295 Re: UGGH [cwoolner]
May 02, 2009 (8:21 am)
You do not have to have a faulty engine (blown) to claim it a lemon. That's what I learned - that and more! I can teach classes in Lemon Law which indicates how much research I did on the internet when the dealer blew my engine. When this happened last December, I didn't know what to do because the dealer didn't want to be responsible. And besides that, they claimed my timing belt blew (which it did) which they said had nothing to do with the coolant problem. That's when I thought something was not right and began to research. The coolant problem is what caused the timing belt to go because the engine was so damn hot - we're talking a year of this problem. My attorney got LR North America to do a 'purchase buy-back' with my car based on the many times I had the car serviced WHILE it was under warranty - not based on what happened in Dec. So basically, the car was a lemon the entire time I was driving it! I made copies of all of my work orders (which was a big stack) and gave them to my atty. It was then that he saw I had a case. There are several ways the Lemon Law can apply to a vehicle. That's why I highly suggest talking to either my atty or someone else who is experienced in lemon law.
Any other questions, please ask - I feel very lucky to have my $20,000 check to go shopping for a car!