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#211 of 281 Coolant Leak- - re: bernie25 by sripley Feb 01, 2009 (11:53 am)
Replying to: bernie25 (Feb 01, 2009 10:49 am) Yes, the coolant leak into the engine is the Head Gasket Failure issue widely reported. The problem you are experiencing is a terminal-catastrophic vehicle failure issue and you seriously need to consider trading in the vehicle and I do not recommend spending any money whatsoever on trying to repair it. The dealer will say only a replacement engine will fix it, the problem with that is the engines were discontinued and any refurbished engine from a salvage yard, etc would have the same design flawed engine resulting in another failure, at a cost of $7000-$9000.   The above poster is correct that certain head gasket repair compounds such as Blue Devil and similiar products have on certain occasion corrected the problem temporarily, however those products will result in failure of the thermostat if not properly dont by a licensed mechanic. Blue Devil will also not cure any of the related issues with the gasket failure, such as warped piston head and the further emulsification of the coolant and oil which inevitably will result in the overheating issue as the gasket leak becomes a complete failure, the final failure having engine oil completely fill up your coolant overflow cannister and throughout the radiator system.   I do not recommend the gasket repair products, as they may temporarily correct the problem, but even state on the product cannister results may only last 6 - 12 months. Your best bet is to trade in the vehicle or discuss selling/legal or credit options to rid yourself of the Freelander. I understand a previous poster was successful in temporarily curing the gasket failure but it is like putting glue on broken cork, inevitably it will fail again.   Good luck.
#212 of 281 Re: Update [bernie25] by jax290 Feb 02, 2009 (1:18 am)
Replying to: bernie25 (Feb 01, 2009 10:49 am) If it is in fact leaking into the engine a quick check is: remove the oil filler cap and check the underside of the cap. If you have a glob type gray matter, somewhat like snot, then you most likely have a head gasket failure. This is most commonly caused by an overheated engine. If you haven't overheated the engine, and you don't have crud under the cap, then most likely the leak is what I discribed, and the is the same as I indicated. What I didn't mention was that the part of the thermostat that inserts into the engine block and the second tube were badly decayed when I removed the old ones. A quick check to see if the leak was the same as I discribed is: remove the air filter cover, that big plastic cover on the engine. If you look with a flashlight down between the intake tubes you can see a flat part of the engine block, with a black tube going from the thermostat housing to the back of the water pump. Directly under that system you will see either fluid or crud from evaporated coolant. If you have this then your thermostat system is leaking, and it needs to be fixed.
#214 of 281 2004 Freelander maintanence and repairs by cwoolner Feb 02, 2009 (4:50 pm)
I have a 2004 Freelander SE, bought brand new off the lot in 04. I currently have about 54k miles on it and in the last week have noticed coolant leaking, causing the over heating light to come on. I have read on this forum about the 2002 and 2003 problems, but I'm not reading much about the 04 model having the same problems. I have it in the shop now being looked at and waiting to hear what the verdict is. My question is... can any one tell me if the 04 model is doomed to what appears to be a major quality issue with the earlier models? While I'm here... is it common for the rear differential to go bad at 52k miles? I had that fixed about 2 months ago. I want to figure out how much more $$ to put into this thing or if I should off load it sooner than later. Thanks! Replies to this message: smithspeech (Feb 04, 2009 9:24 pm) awise003 (Apr 13, 2009 11:05 am)
#215 of 281 Re: freelander transmission [wildrover] by cwoolner Feb 03, 2009 (11:48 am)
Replying to: wildrover (Dec 15, 2006 8:59 am) I am in for any lawsuit that can be filed. I live in MI, own a 2004 Freelander SE with 54k miles on it and was bought new off the lot in 2004. The rear differential went out 2 months ago (replaced for $385) and currently in the shop for a thermostat issue... $630 to get fixed. Of course the warranty was up at 50k. I will be looking to offload BEFORE the tranny issues start. Hopefully I can get a decent trade in for it...still owe $$ of course! Replies to this message: sicntired (Apr 30, 2009 4:13 pm)
#216 of 281 Re: 2004 Freelander maintanence and repairs [cwoolner] by smithspeech Feb 04, 2009 (9:24 pm)
Replying to: cwoolner (Feb 02, 2009 4:50 pm) I bought a brand new 2004 Freelander and it started leaking coolant at 61,000 miles. The service department at my dealership could not find the cause, They told me to add the orange Dexol or whatever. I did so and it helped for awhile. Then it got worse. I brought it to a local service station and they found a small crack in the water pump. They said that the crack was in a weird place (it was probably a flaw in the manufacturing, in my opinion). I had the water pump replaced and so far I've added 16,000 miles and it's been fine. I just had to add a little bit of the coolant but not more than 8 ounces mixed with water, of course, after about 10,000 miles. So far, so good. I've had two door latches replaced over the years and just recently the plenum intake and the wire harness (it's had electrical quirks since I bought it). It drives well and is very comfortable so I'm sticking with it for now. I hope to get at least 100,000 miles plus (at least until 2011). Replies to this message: awise003 (Apr 13, 2009 11:05 am)
#217 of 281 Re: whoa, does anyone out there have a good Freelander except me? [hreville by kpence Feb 09, 2009 (9:08 am)
Replying to: hreville (Apr 10, 2007 11:44 am) Hello All, Is there any new news about a class action law suit? I will join one if there is one filed. I am actually going to Carmax today to see if they will buy my 2002 Freelander for anything reasonable. I don't drive it anymore since getting the engine replaced among all of the other repairs for fear of the replacement engine going out and the thing being worth nothing at all. Anyone having any luck selling to Carmax? Kim
#218 of 281 Fuel Pump Recall by mpw3 Feb 23, 2009 (1:11 pm)
I took my 2004 Freelander in for a parking light problem and was told there is a recall on the fuel pump. You should contact your dealer since it doesn't seem that Land Rover is sending out any notices on this.
#219 of 281 Re: Freelander Overheating/coolant loss fix [jax290] by driver68 Mar 09, 2009 (3:39 pm)
Replying to: jax290 (Jan 29, 2009 10:01 pm) I need some help, someone had posted an idea about getting together some kind of list in regards to the freelander & the problems, we the owners have had. So I just kind of threw this together & Im definitely open for ideas. You can copy and paste and add whatever you think will make it simple, for us to fill out. Also, I need input on whom we should send this too. Im not sure if this will help or if anyone is interested in the idea. I just turned my 03 flander over to the bank. My credit is ruined & I still owe $8000.00. I am without a vehicle as of now and unsure of what is going to happen in the near future. Read over it & let me know what you think. Thanks C   Dear Freelander owner, please take a few minutes to fill out this questionnaire. In an effort to compile evidence based on owning a freelander and your experience.   What year did you purchase your Freelander   What year was your Freelander   Did you purchase your Freelander from a Land Rover dealership?   If you did Purchase your Freelander from a Land Rover dealership what was the location?   How many miles were on your Freelander, at the time of purchase?   Did you lease your Freelander?   What was the purchase price on your freelander?   Was your Freelander under the original factory warranty, when purchased?   Who financed you Freelander?   PROBLEMS MILEAGE COVERED                                                                     BY                                                                   WARRANTY   Timing belt Brakes Transmission head gasket coolant leaking brake light head light brake light switch   Did you purchase an extended warranty thru another company?   If yes, which comapny.   Did you contact land Rover North America   Number of times your vehicle was taken to the LR dealership, due to engine light coming on?   Do you have documented proof of the times your car was at the dealership?   Did they fix the problem on the first visit?   If not how many visits?   Did you contact the NHTSA?   Did you replace the engine in your Freelander?   If yes, what was the mileage?   what was the dollar amount quoted to you to repair the engine?   Was your Freelander under original factory Warranty?   How long did you have to wait for an engine?   Did they provide you with a rental car? Replies to this message: winezealott (Mar 10, 2009 7:42 am)
#220 of 281 Re: Freelander Overheating/coolant loss fix [driver68] by winezealott Mar 10, 2009 (7:42 am)
Replying to: driver68 (Mar 09, 2009 3:39 pm) Wow - I thought I had problem - so sorry to hear your end result. I still have my car (without an operating engine) and still owe $5000 but hired an attorney here in Los Angeles. They are trying to sue under the Lemon Law. They're not pursuing the case based on my situation (dealer blew engine) because the car is too old. But because I took my car into the dealer for repairs while it was still under warranty so many times, they are going with that. It's only been 3 weeks since attorneys sent letter to LR North America. So we're waiting to get a response. Or you can contact Howard Gutman in NJ who is an attorney handling many of these cases. Maybe he can do something for you.   Good luck.

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