Hyundai Santa Fe vs Toyota RAV4 vs Mazda CX7 vs Ford Edge

811 messages,  Last post on Sep 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Santa Fe, Toyota RAV4, Mazda CX-7, Ford Edge, Honda CR-V, SUV

#792 of 811 Re: I'm really interested in the Mazda cx7 -torn between that and an Edge [weinerdowndog] by thegraduate

Sep 10, 2008 (7:55 pm)

Replying to: weinerdowndog (Sep 10, 2008 7:18 pm)
Consider the payment difference there, too. The fuel economy isn't going to be THAT much better than your Mountaineer if you are still going with a 2 ton SUV.

#793 of 811 Re: I'm really interested in the Mazda cx7 -torn between that and an Edge [thegraduate] by akirby

Sep 11, 2008 (6:48 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 10, 2008 7:55 pm)
We traded a V8 Aviator for an Edge Limited. We went from 19-20 hwy to 23-24 hwy and from 15 city to 17-19 depending on traffic. Not huge but a significant bump.
 
The CX-7 is smaller and sportier but the Edge has Sync and assuming the rest is either close or not important to you I'd go with a Syncified Edge (actually, I already did!).

#794 of 811 Re: I'm really interested in the Mazda cx7 -torn between that and an Edge [akirby] by weinerdowndog

Sep 11, 2008 (6:56 am)

Replying to: akirby (Sep 11, 2008 6:48 am)
do you have the AWD on your Edge? also what type of gas does it use? regular I hope.

#795 of 811 Re: I'm really interested in the Mazda cx7 -torn between that and an Edge [weinerdowndog] by akirby

Sep 11, 2008 (7:28 am)

Replying to: weinerdowndog (Sep 11, 2008 6:56 am)
FWD. All Edges use 87 octane fuel.

#796 of 811 Re: I'm really interested in the Mazda cx7 -torn between that and an Edge [weinerdowndog] by ateixeira

Sep 11, 2008 (11:13 am)

Replying to: weinerdowndog (Sep 10, 2008 7:18 pm)
2008 and later CX7s also can use regular fuel. In 2007 they required premium, but not any more.
 
Also consider the RAV4 V6 and the Forester XT. Those are quick and relatively efficient for the level of performance they provide.

#797 of 811 Re: I'm really interested in the Mazda cx7 -torn between that and an Edge [ateixeira] by akirby

Sep 11, 2008 (12:45 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 11, 2008 11:13 am)
They don't require premium but they won't get the advertised HP or mileage either.

#798 of 811 Re: I'm really interested in the Mazda cx7 -torn between that and an Edge [akirby] by ateixeira

Sep 11, 2008 (1:32 pm)

Replying to: akirby (Sep 11, 2008 12:45 pm)
The CX7 was actually re-tuned, so I'm not sure if that's still the case.

#799 of 811 EPA annual fuel costs by ateixeira

Sep 11, 2008 (1:44 pm)

While we're at it, let's look them up...
 
EPA assumes both turbos will be using Premium and that it costs 24 cents more than Regular, and they estimate annual fuel costs for AWD models at....
 
RAV4 V6: $2,670 (on Regular)
Forester XT: $2,842 (on Premium)
Ford Edge V6: $3,119 (on Regular)
Mazda CX7: $3,319 (on Premium)
 
So with that handicap the Mazda takes a serious hit, but the Forester is fuel efficient enough that it will still save you hundreds per year on gas compared to the V6 Edge AWD even if you do use premium fuel.
 
Of course, the fuel miser of the group is the RAV4 V6. I have that powertrain in my Sienna, and the engine is a gem. The transmission is only so-so. I do beat EPA numbers easily in my van, too.
 
I believe above I had suggested a RAV4 V6 and a Forester XT as alternatives, so I'll stick to my guns and say you should try those.
 
We ended up with a Forester Limited, not the turbo, and that thing has been great on fuel. It's no turbo but performance is more than adequate. EPA says it'll cost $2553 per year to fuel up, just for reference.

#800 of 811 Re: I'm really interested in the Mazda cx7 -torn between that and an Edge [ateixeira] by akirby

Sep 11, 2008 (8:47 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 11, 2008 1:32 pm)
It all depends on how they were tested. If they recommend premium then they were probably tested with premium. If they recommend regular but say premium is optional then the numbers are probably correct for 87 octane.

#801 of 811 Re: I'm really interested in the Mazda cx7 -torn between that and an Edge [akirby] by ateixeira

Sep 12, 2008 (9:16 am)

Replying to: akirby (Sep 11, 2008 8:47 pm)
The EPA uses the recommended fuel, so for the numbers above both turbos burn premium fuel. The site says so specifically, even estimating prices for the fuel.
 
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm
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