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#91 of 96 Re: 2006 DTS BATTERY DRAIN [Mr_Shiftright]
by indytoo
Feb 16, 2013 (6:56 am)
Thanks for your response. The dealer had my vehicle overnight as they said they were running a test that took many hours to complete. They said that they could find no problem with the electrical systems in my car, including the battery. As insurance, I had them replace the battery anyway. I stopped by the dealers yesterday to inquire if the key door locks work even with a dead battery and they said yes. So, I will keep the portable battery pack on the floor in the back seat area. That will be very embarrasing when people ask why am I carrying that in a Cadillac. On one hand, I would tend to agree with you that the dealer blew it as far as testing and correcting the problem is concerned, however, my dealer is a very old dealer and the only one here in Indy so I would think that their knowledge and background on these problems would be second nature to them. As well, as I would think that as common a problem as this seems to be, I would think that the factory would have determined the problem and issued a tech bulletin for correcting the problem by now. They have had about 7 years to work on the problem. Am I in left field on this issue? I might add that I really like this 06 Cadillac and think that it is a tremenous vehicle.
#92 of 96 Re: 2006 DTS BATTERY DRAIN [indytoo]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 16, 2013 (8:17 am)
There is this TSB:
TECHNICAL
Bulletin No.: 09-08-50-017B
Date: February 11, 2010
Subject: No Crank, No Start, Discharged or Low Battery (Reprogram Rear Heated Seat Module)
Models:
2006-2010 Cadillac DTS
Built Prior to February 2, 2010
Condition
Some customers may comment about a no crank/no start condition or a discharged or low battery.
Note
This condition may be intermittent, therefore it is important to check if a revised calibration has been released on TIS2WEB for this concern, even if the condition cannot be duplicated at the dealer.
Cause
This condition may be caused by the rear heated seat module (RHSM) discharging the battery by keeping the serial data bus active, which creates a cumulative continuous draw of four amps on the battery after the vehicle is shut down, until the state of charge reaches three volts.
Correction
Important
DO NOT replace the RHSM or the battery for this concern.
Reprogram the RHSM with the latest software calibration.
Important
Select the correct calibration files for the appropriate vehicle configuration (body style) and RPO codes.
A revised calibration has been developed to address this condition. Technicians are to reprogram the RHSM using the Service Programming System (SPS) with the latest software available on TIS2WEB. Refer to the Service Programming System (SPS) procedures in SI.
When using a Tech 2(R) or a Multiple Diagnostic Interface (MDI) for reprogramming, ensure that it is updated with the latest software version.
During programming, the battery voltage must be maintained within the proper range of 12-15 volts. Only use the approved Midtronics(R) PSC 550 Battery Maintainer (SPS Programming Support Tool EL-49642) or equivalent during programming.
#93 of 96 Re: 2006 DTS BATTERY DRAIN [Mr_Shiftright]
by indytoo
Feb 16, 2013 (9:55 am)
I will print out this information and take it to the dealer next week and see what kind of response I get. The service statement that I received only indicated that an "Electrical system check was made and found everything checked out fine. Used GR8 to test battery; battery passed, installed 88865253 : 79PS Battery". I don't know whether that has any meaning or not other than what was stated. The service writer indicated that they had had cases of this problem but did not seem to provide any sense of reliability or processes as to any fixes. Perhaps they did reprogram the RHSM indicated in the TB, and did not indicate so on the service statement(?). The service writer did not indicate that it was done. I will find out about that also. Again, Thanks for your help and concern. Jim
#94 of 96 Re: 2006 DTS BATTERY DRAIN [indytoo]
by gmcustsvc
Feb 18, 2013 (7:05 am)
indytoo,
Keep us posted on your visit to the dealership! We're available to you should you want any assistance in the process. Contact us at socialmedia
gm.com (include your name and contact information, the last 8 digits of your VIN and mileage, and a summary of the situation).
Sarah, GM Customer Service
#95 of 96 Re: 2006 DTS BATTERY DRAIN [gmcustsvc]
by indytoo
Feb 20, 2013 (11:10 am)
Stopped at the Dealers today and discussed issue with the Service Writer. Asked her if she knew if the RHSM had been reprogrammed with the latest software available on TIS2WEB as cited in #87. She drew a blank. She pounded on here keyboard for a while and said she could find nothing in regard to any reprogramming. I did not have the number with me to give to her at that time. She asked if I could get a copy and I said I would see what I could do. I see an instruction "Bulletin No. 09-08-50-017B" and the TIS2WEB listed. Are these GM documents or outside party items? It seems to me that if they were GM's, they would be readily available to dealer service departments. Please advise.
Jim
#96 of 96 Re: 2006 DTS will not start [usabravo]
by cadillac1979
Apr 15, 2013 (6:45 am)
I just had that problem , except it happened to me , while I was doing a HID got light kit to it, after installing all lights , tried to start car and nothing all dash light worked , all interior lights worked , doors would lock and unlock but no horn would sound and remote start wouldn't work , head light or fogs not working but marker lights and turn signals worked, message display said service airbag system, after putting all factory stuff back together and re installing bumper , everything worked like nothing ever happened .