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Re: Remarks not seen elsewhere [xanax54] by sir_enitie
Jul 01, 2007 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: xanax54 (Jun 30, 2007 9:01 am)

Xanax, I agree with much of what you've said, in particular with regards to torque and "go" from a standing start. My last car was a 2002 Acura RSX, and there's no question that it was a torquier, perkier engine than the Rabbit. (It was also an absolute dog below 3000 RPM, a problem the Rabbit doesn't have - but that's a different story). That said, I think that it's unfair to compare it to any turbo-boosted engine: Turbos will ALWAYS give you that "kick in the pants" feeling, especially in the higher RPM ranges.
 
You're right in saying that the Rabbit has a very even power band; it delivers good power throughout the RPM range, but not GREAT power anywhere. Nonetheless, my experience has been that the car "feels" quick the majority of the time, especially once you've adjusted to the gear ratios.
 
I do disagree quite vehmently with your comments about the (premium) stereo. I believe, for a stock system, it's a phenomenal stereo system and I've been ecstatic with it from the start. The friendly, bright console, the large display, the ease of use, and quality of sound -- all of these are huge positives in my books.
 
I think there's no doubt about build quality. It's an exceptionally solid and well-assembled car, and there's no question (IMO) that the fact that it's built in Germany makes a world of difference. As far as reliability goes...I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?
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Re: Remarks not seen elsewhere [xanax54] by eldaino
Jul 02, 2007 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: xanax54 (Jun 30, 2007 9:01 am)

your are the first person i've ever talked to that thought the rabbit lacked torque. peak torque actually comes in about 3700 rpms, not exactly 4. most people buying the rabbit dont test drive a gti first, given its price increase.
 
a lot of 1.8t owners on vwvortex have commented on the power delivery of the rabbit; i believe that the torque is actually pretty close, but the rabbit delivers it without any turbo lag. there are many a 1.8t drivers on that website that switched to the 2.5 and have nothing but good things to say (most of them better than what they were saying about the 1.8t) about the engine. granted to each their own, and the 2.0t is a TOTALLY different ordeal. This cars engine is on par with entry level midsize sedans; to say it lacks torque basically mean you shouldn't compare it to anything under a 2.5 displacement engine, or anything that doesnt have forced induction.
 
to say the rabbit isn't torquey makes less sense than saying it has less torque than a 1.8 turbo.
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Re: Remarks not seen elsewhere [sir_enitie] by eldaino
Jul 02, 2007 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: sir_enitie (Jul 01, 2007 7:17 am)

My last car was a 2002 Acura RSX, and there's no question that it was a torquier, perkier engine than the Rabbit. (It was also an absolute dog below 3000 RPM, a problem the Rabbit doesn't have - but that's a different story
 
how was it a torquier engine than the rabbit when it was a 'dog' below 3000rpm? not even the rsx type s has as much torque as the rabbit, i think that k series only had like 140lbs of torque; did you have a type s? if not, its even worse, becasue the base rsx engine only had 135 lbs of torque. Do these engines like to rev more than the rabbit? oh yes, definitely. but are they 'torquier'? not a chance. the rsx (both base and type s) make their power high in the rpm band, thus needing to be revved; the exact opposite of whats commonly referred to as 'torquie'.

I think there's no doubt about build quality. It's an exceptionally solid and well-assembled car, and there's no question (IMO) that the fact that it's built in Germany makes a world of difference. As far as reliability goes...I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?

 
totally agree; although the engine in our cars IS sourced from mexico, but everything else is wolfsburgian. if its any consolation, my rabbit is about to clear 23k in less than a year, and still no problems.
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I finally got my Rabbit. by sharpedgeshurt
Jul 05, 2007 (7:58 pm)
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Finally. My 94 Toyota Camry has been dead for nearly 3 weeks, and I'm tired of being the passenger in my carpool. It feels good to finally be able to get behind the wheel of something that runs.
Anyway, my buying experience.
I picked up the 4 door United Gray with the Anthrawhatever Gray Interior, and the anti skid control. The model I saw in the lot also had a sunroof and 16 inch rims--not something I needed or was looking for, but I doubted I'd really be able to find a base model 4 door automatic in the color I wanted.
I got the vehicle for 21,300 out the door after taxes, licensing, a $50 dollar dock fee, and destination. They even threw in the Gorilla gear floor mats (after I said that I could probably find them for $80 online) for the front and back, and the big mat for the hatchback along with a set of velcro shelve things for no extra charge. I did the math and it was like getting the vehicle for $900 below invoice. My Uncle who went with me made them give me $10 of gas also. I'm extremely happy with the price I paid, and the buying experience was great. I went in looking to get just a base model Automatic for 19,800 at best. I purchased it with 70 miles on the vehicle.
 
I also asked about maintenance programs and extended warranties. The Finance guy was surprisingly cool, the only thing he tried to sell me was Lojack which I declined. I had to ask him about the maintenance and he basically said that "VW's are more expensive to maintain than Japanese cars. If you get the maintenance plan you're going to pay now instead of later." Not to mention that it is only good at the dealer I'm purchasing the maintenance program from. Eldaino's messages about his expensive maintenance, along with someone elses post about maintenance programs made me ask. I plan on putting about a 1,000 dollars away soon for a "expensive maintenance fund."
 
So I am officially a Rabbit owner, and I have absolutely zero buyers remorse. I will try my best to drive frugally and get some decent MPG out of it in the next few months!
 
-Abel
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One more thing. by sharpedgeshurt
Jul 05, 2007 (10:30 pm)
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My math was a little bit off... as far as the "$900 below invoice" It was more like $750 below MSRP. Good enough for me.
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Re: One more thing. [sharpedgeshurt] by eldaino
Jul 06, 2007 (4:40 am)
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Replying to: sharpedgeshurt (Jul 05, 2007 10:30 pm)

congrats and welcome to the family man!
 
i'm suprised you couldn't find a base four door auto for less than high 19k; i've seen em without sunroof and rims with the auto for mid 18's. But anywho, you got some good options and the price is fantastic, so is the color! (my bunny is united gray as well!)
 
I finally got around to changing the oil myself, it was no walk in the park initially, but now i got it down. I think i'll take her back to the dealer for a big service, like the 40k and then do the smaller ones myself again.
 
At anyrate, congratulations man, enjoy your awesome new ride!
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Re: One more thing. [eldaino] by sharpedgeshurt
Jul 06, 2007 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jul 06, 2007 4:40 am)

Maybe the mark up is a bit higher in California. The base price I paid with the extra options before tax/liscensing/and destination was something like 19.5k, not bad considering the nearly $2000 worth of goodies above and beyond the base automatic model I ended up getting.
Thanks for the warm welcome!
I'll be sure to post here often.
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Re: One more thing. [sharpedgeshurt] by eldaino
Jul 06, 2007 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: sharpedgeshurt (Jul 06, 2007 7:45 am)

hey no problem! i used to live and grew up in california, in yorba linda and fullerton to be exact. Theres reports of alots of ca dealers marking up certain vehicles so it does not suprise me; but like you said, you got some nice options on the bad boy! welcome to the forums!
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purchacing a 07 Rabbit on Tues!! by o_rabbit
Jul 08, 2007 (3:47 am)
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Hey all! I've never been a VW owner before and Im super excited!! ive been driving a 93 honda civic for the past 5 years and its been a tank! im looking forward to getting my new car here on tuesday and becoming a part of the chat!!
any heads ups on the car? anything you wish you'd known from the get go but didnt? advice? let me know!!
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Re: purchacing a 07 Rabbit on Tues!! [o_rabbit] by sharpedgeshurt
Jul 08, 2007 (7:03 am)
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Replying to: o_rabbit (Jul 08, 2007 3:47 am)

Do your research and read through the forums. Don't buy this car expecting anything but mediocre MPG since new EPA estimates are 19-28mpg--But the Rabbit is considerably heavier than other vehicles it's size, giving it a really solid feel on the road, and it can handle a heavier pay load and extra passengers without affecting the overall drive/acceleration noticeably at all. (Unlike the Honda Fit which feels like you are being pulled by a tractor when you drive) If you live in California you can feel green since the Rabbit is a PZEV (partial Zero Emissions Vehicle) here.
     VW Rabbit is a really good car for the out the door price, but expect to pay more for maintenance over time, and expect to be bringing it in to the shop a little bit more often than any of it's Japanese competitors (for things like brakes and tune ups). VW has had reliability issues in the past, when most of their vehicles in the US were assembled in Mexico. The new Rabbit's final assembly point is in Wolsfburg Germany, the 2.5 liter engine is manufactured in Mexico, and if you are getting a rabbit with automatic transmission, the transmission is made in Japan. It is a new year model, so we'll have to wait and see what it's true reliability is (And I've only had mine for 4 days). BUT our '07 Rabbit's have been available in other countries as the GOLF for a few years already (with a different engine), so hopefully the bugs have been worked out.
     That being said, the car feels tight as a drum behind the wheel and the interior is immaculate, even nicer than the new civics. It's a great car, and I hope that if it's "babied" a little bit more than my old Japanese car, it will last a long, long time. Hope this helps!

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