Last post on Feb 19, 2013 at 12:23 PM
You are in the Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan
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Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan, Car Warranties, Sedan
#57 of 66 Re: expected reliability [snakeweasel]
Jul 19, 2006 (7:46 pm)
The 3rd party providing the warranty was selected by the credit union to provide a benefit to their members. I doubt they selected a company with a history of not paying claims. But, in any case, they must have some basis for setting different prices for different cars.
Yes, the prices were before Ford's announcement of the new warranty. When did Honda go to 5 year power train warranty? I was not aware of that...but yes differences in mfr warranty should be factored in. And you are right this makes the Ford quote look even better.
Most cars I have gotten rates for do not vary all that much they are mostly between that Honda figure and about $1500...this is not enough to be a factor in my car buying decisions. So most cars are reliable enough that reliability is a non-factor for me.
The exception was the X-type. The warranty was only available for 6 years and 80,000 miles for that car and the cost was close to $3000, IIRC...despite the fact that it had 4 yr mfr warranty. In that case the extended warranty information was a factor in deciding against the vehicle.
Warrnty cost is more meaningful to me than things like the number of JD Powers "problems" per 100 vehicles or CR's self-selected self-reported data on "problems". But, I think all of these things taken together can give a pretty good idea, especially if they all are telling you the same thing.
#58 of 66 Re: expected reliability [jeffyscott]
Jul 19, 2006 (9:54 pm)
In the case of the X-Type, you should have checked Jag's extended warranty program. I just bought an 06 with the Extra Mile Jag warranty for 7years-100K miles. Cost me $2400. AAA's extended warranty quote was $3800 for less coverage. Got a couple other quotes from reputable warranty firms - both were in the $1600 range, but, had higher deductables, and, lesser coverage than Jag's warranty. I also got a quote on an extended factory warranty on my Chrysler - they wanted $3k to extended it on my Sebring!!
#59 of 66 Re: expected reliability [oldcem]
Jul 20, 2006 (5:40 am)
In the case of the X-Type, you should have checked Jag's extended warranty program.
I don't actually buy extended warranties, just using them as one data point for determining expected "reliability". In Jaguar's case there were plenty of other warning signs that the X-type was having a lot of problems, when we were considering one in late 2004. As I recall, it was off the charts in negative territory in CR for example. There were other reasons we decided against the car too, despite the pricing of $6000 below invoice at that time.
I just bought an 06 with the Extra Mile Jag warranty for 7years-100K miles. Cost me $2400.
Probably a good idea with a Jag . I do not like extended warranties in general...I'd rather keep the money and pay for repairs myself. In addition, extended warranties do not do a lot for us, since we do not put that many miles on. Maybe 8000 per year...so even a 7 year warranty only gives us 56,000 miles.
#60 of 66 happy with extended warranty
Jul 20, 2006 (12:38 pm)
I took delivery of our '06 Fusion SE last nite and was informed that '06 Ford vehicles sold on or after 7/14 would be given the 5 yr / 60K extended powertrain warranty which makes me a very happy customer from the start. Other domestic car makers should folllow Ford's lead in this area. Love the car so far...very roomy, quiet, and comfortable. Someone asked about a/c operation at very high temperatures...does it work effectively?
Jul 25, 2006 (10:15 am)
to see you like your car. This new warrentee should help drive people to the brand. I hope people take notice.
#62 of 66 Why won't Ford won't cover all 2006 for 5/60???
Aug 17, 2006 (11:07 am)
Per Ford, "A 2006 Model Year Ford vehicle sold on or after July 14, 2006 will be covered by a complimentary 5year/60,000 Mile Ford ESP PowertrainCARE extended service contract with a $100 deductible."
So, those of us who bought a 2006 Milan pre-7/14/06 we get nothing? Why not a 4 year/40K? If you bought on 7/13/06 you got 3/36 and on 7/14/06 you get 5/50. Should be something for those who bought in early 2006.
Ford should thank us for early buying the gas guzzling Milan and losing more money on gas sooner than newer purchasers!
#63 of 66 Re: Why won't Ford won't cover all 2006 for 5/60??? [dlang]
Sep 05, 2006 (6:52 pm)
I just purchased on 06 Fusion with the 72 0%. They sold me a 6/60000 esp, stating I was only getting a 3/36. Is that right, or did they screw me? I paid $900 for the esp, but should I have gotten the 5/50000 free?
#64 of 66 Re: Why won't Ford won't cover all 2006 for 5/60??? [neile457]
Sep 06, 2006 (12:35 am)
The 3/36 is Bumper-to-Bumper, 5/60 is just for addiitional Powertrain. Seems like you purchased a 5/60 B2B. See Ford.com for exact meanings of coverage.
I have a table of Ford early 2006 ESP prices from my previous dealer. Supposedly these are standard prices that all dealers charge. At the time, I extended my 2003 Sable 3/36 B2B, at lease end, to 6/60 B2B for $1350. If I find the table, I can calculate the difference between Ford 5/60 B2B and 5/60 Powertrain ESPs to see if it was $900 or more which is what you paid for an additional 2/24 of B2B coverage above Powertrain. That $900 may be high.
Ask dealer service rep to see current table. The best value was at 6/60, go to 6/75 or 7/60 (years and mileage are independent) and pay a-lot more.
#66 of 66 2012 Fusion Windshield defects
Feb 19, 2013 (12:23 pm)
Bought my Fusion in Aug 2012 new and noticed visibility problems with my windshield. On close inspection there were little quarter-sized areas that looked like the glass did not laminate fully (air pockets?). Took it back to the Ford dealer after 1 month and they agreed the windshield was damaged but said it was "acid rain" and not covered by warranty. Called Ford Customer service and got the exact same response. I never heard of acid rain attacking glass, and several chemists have told me it is very unlikely. The paint looks fine, no damage. Has anyone else had a similar problem with Ford windows?