Ford F-Series Powerstroke Diesel Problems

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#95 of 1184 Ford F350 oil leak by tader

Aug 15, 2007 (10:48 am)

I have got a 1997 Ford F350 7.3 LTR Power Stroke. I have got a major oil leak it seams to be coming from the back of the oil pan where it goes around the crank shaft. This gasket is a dealer item only. My question is to replace this gasket does the motor have to be taken out to get the oil pan off or is there an easier way? If it is not the oil pan gasket what else could it be? Rear crank shaft seal? If any one could help it would be great. Thanks

#96 of 1184 05 F350 Diesel 6.0L Coolant loss by johnminn

Aug 15, 2007 (9:03 pm)

The engine has 59,000 miles on it.
It loses coolant, but I have not discerned the tell tale exhaust "smoke".
 
Since it does not lose coolant when I am not loaded, I am suspecting that it has to do with head bolts which are not properly torqued or bolts which do not have enough strength.
 
I noticed a number of posts pointing to head gaskets which (to me) confirms my suspicion about the head bolts not being up to the job. The leakage occurs under full load. Under that condition, the cylinder pressure would be at it's maximum and therefore I come back to the head bolts not being up to the job.
 
Due to my insistence, we will be doing a radiator pressure check under load and full heat tomorrow.
 
If you have any ideas, I am surely listening because the Diesel "experts" at the dealership don't seem to have a clue.
 
I realize that I am grasping at straws, but I need that truck running, not sitting in the shop. If I wanted that, I would move an easy chair into the show room floor and admire all that pretty tin.
 
You may contact me at ajb645rconnect.com.
I am not worried about trash mail because I preview it with mailwasher pro before I down load it and all junk gets sent back to the sender.
 
Thanks to all for any good ideas.
John

#97 of 1184 2005 Ford 6.0L diesel blowing head gaskets by johnminn

Aug 17, 2007 (11:09 am)

2005 6.0L Ford (International) Engine.
We are now in stage two of the problem of blown head gaskets.
In spite of the fact that Ford has sent a bulletin to it’s dealers stating that the 6.0 L engine tends to blow it’s head gaskets, they are denying our claim.
They are stating that they will not service it under warranty because it has EXTERNAL TO THE ENGINE components which are not made by Ford. Conklin Company proved to John Deere that they can’t get away with that excuse.
It would appear that what they are saying is that for those who do have this engine, be sure that you do not ask that engine to work like a truck engine and that you should not do something so nasty as pulling your camping trailer with it. It would appear that I made a serious mistake of pulling my triple axle trailer up hill in warm weather. Guess I shall have to find a 1946 Chevrolet with the babbitted bearing 6 cylinder so that I can pull my trailer. I used that car to pull a very heavy trailer all over Colorado and the North central parts of the US. You would surely think that a big Ford V8 was more powerful and tougher than that Chevy straight 6. The Ford made only one trip up a long slope, and the Chevy pulled innumerable hills.
I surely hope that Ford/International get their act together. We will now go through a certification process covering the components Ford/International used to put the heads on that 6.0L
“See you in court” seems the path want us to be taking. That is a BAD idea on their part, because “word of mouth” spreads like wildfire these days.
If you have a similar problem, holler, and I will give you a rather large file of “to do’s”.
Remember this: Even if a dealer and or regional representative denies your claim, they do have a tacky problem to deal with called the law. When you bought your truck, you have a legal right to expect that it will function in a normal manner for a reasonable amount of time. Does anyone here think that 59,000 miles to failure is reasonable?

#98 of 1184 Mods by mschmal

Aug 18, 2007 (6:57 am)

What gives you the right to expect Ford to be responsible when you take after market components not made by them and attach them to your engine?
 
Why don't you try to get the maker of the mod parts to fix your engine....
 
Its just amazing. What company has the engineering and money to invest in makeing a diesel engine component better than Fords? Don't think that that if a change was reliable possible, Ford would do it at the factory?
 
Mark

#99 of 1184 2004 6.0 diesel wont start fuel problem? by duckedup

Aug 18, 2007 (6:30 pm)

First It has about 80,000 miles on it. It started running rough the other day no power at all, shut it off restarted it and it ran fine.Did it again the next day. Today it did it and when I shut it off it wont start back. It acts like it isn't getting fuel. I replaced the fuel filters but that didn't help. Any suggestions?

#100 of 1184 Re: 2004 6.0 diesel wont start fuel problem? [duckedup] by duckedup

Aug 18, 2007 (6:45 pm)

Replying to: duckedup (Aug 18, 2007 6:30 pm)
I finally got it to start, but it runs very low rpms and if you give it fuel it does nothing just sits there sputtering.

#101 of 1184 Re: 05 F350 Diesel 6.0L Coolant loss [johnminn] by johnminn

Aug 20, 2007 (3:21 am)

Replying to: johnminn (Aug 15, 2007 9:03 pm)
It did prove to be the head gaskets leaking.
The truck is still in the shop.
We did find out that the first sign of the failing head gaskets many times is the failure of the EGR coolant tube.
They don't want to cover it under warranty.
Now they have a dilemma because we have requested that they give us a signed refusal with and explanation for the reason they refuse to do it under warranty.
Sure not like the old days when they stood behind their equipment 100%.

#102 of 1184 Re: 05 F350 Diesel 6.0L Coolant loss [johnminn] by cowboy9

Aug 20, 2007 (12:18 pm)

Replying to: johnminn (Aug 20, 2007 3:21 am)
Hey John,
 
I guess I missed up in replying to your other email and it didnt come through as i just replied to this one and lost it also, lol.
 
Sorry but they already told you that because of what you did with putting on Aftermarket items they are not going to cover it. Why would they do what you want they are Ford with more money than most ever dream of having.
 
What all did you do to your truck as far as getting more power out of it ?
 
Cowboy

#103 of 1184 Head gaskets on the 6.0L by johnminn

Aug 22, 2007 (4:35 am)

The coolant problem was indeed the head gaskets according ot the Ford dealership.
We went round and round and round as the dealers blamed everything BUT the head gaskets.
I was asked "How does the engine 'know' that it is pulling a load?"
The answer is very straight forward.
The maximum volume of the cylinder is fixed.
When under light load the cylinder takes on a light load of air/fuel which is compressed into the top dead center volume for the cylinder.
When under load, a maximum amount of air/fuel is in the cylinder. That larger volume is then compressed into the same volume as the light load was, resulting in MUCH higher pressure.
Inadequate, under torqued or damaged head bolts allow the head to "bounce" enough to allow compressed grasses to escape into the cooling system and other places.
Hence the water problems under load.

#104 of 1184 Re: 05 F350 Diesel 6.0L Coolant loss [cowboy9] by johnminn

Aug 22, 2007 (4:49 am)

Replying to: cowboy9 (Aug 20, 2007 12:18 pm)
Ford talks out of both sides of their mouth.
On one hand they say that they do not void the warranty for after market products.
They do that because of the the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)says that they can not just off hand deny warranty. They have to prove that the after market device caused or contributed to the failure.
Since they have had the gasket problems in engines in compartments with only factory parts, they have a problem they don't want to address.
According to the dealer "Ford has stated that they WILL NOT warranty any engine which is not factory".
BUT
If you call their customer service number they state "Ford does not void a warranty with after market equipment in use".
WHOA!
So I asked the dealer and zone rep "Did Ford give you that will not warranty in a written document that I can see?".
"NO they told us that over the phone".
 
Cowboy,
Now you know how to dance with a broken leg.
John
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