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#93 of 1186 Re: 2007 6.0 sttroke [waz95]
Aug 13, 2007 (8:56 am)
Yes, I have some help and advice for you.....as soon as it is repaired, trade it in while it is running and buy a gas engine version of the F-250 or a F-150 with the Triton engine. We had two Ford F-250's. The first was a '99 with the 7.3. We had next to no problems with that truck. We made our big mistake in October 2004 buying a 6.0 F-250 Lariat Super Duty. February 2005, while on a trip and in the middle of nowhere, we began to experience a top speed of 40 m.p.h on I-10. This was with only 4,000 miles on the truck. It had to be towed 85 miles to the closest Ford dealer. We got no rental and had to pay to stay in a hotel overnight. It took all day for them to replace three fuel injectors. We headed again for our destination 250 miles away and only got 100 more miles when the engine began doing the same thing. We limped into our destination at 1 am. The next morning we called Ford Roadside because the truck died 25 yards from where we were staying. It was towed to the local Ford dealer. It took another full day for two more fuel injectors to be replaced. We got a Ford Taurus and had to pay the rental! Ten months later, a Turbo had to be replaced after it quit working. This was with 20,000 miles on it. Two weeks ago, it would not start again. It HAD 36,210 miles on it. We no longer own it. We had all oil changes and required maintenance done at Ford dealers for documentation since we had been warned if we didn't it would void the warranty. We now own a 2007 F150 four door Lariat 4X4. We just completed a 1,000 mile trip and couldn't be happier. It rides super, is very quiet, got great gas mileage(with the bed full of college dorm gear), and is more comfortable than the 6.0....plus it starts. I would only own another diesel if someone gave it to me free after what I went through with that 2005 truck.
#94 of 1186 UPDATE: Oil in Coolant
Aug 13, 2007 (1:17 pm)
Thanks for all the responses.
Update: the head was inspected, magnafluxed and pressure tested. No problems of any kind showed up. There was no blow-by at either the oil filler location on the valve cover and nothing apparent at the degas bottle. Current speculation is the oil cooler.
Currently, we are replacing the head gasket on the driver's side (had to do this anyway, since we pulled the head), the exhaust manifold gasket, the oil cooler, we will have the radiator removed and flushed by a radiator shop, flush and back flush the engine and heater core, replace a sensor that was working intermittently.
I perhaps should have mentioned that about 3500 miles before the problem of oil in the coolant showed up, a different shop had replaced all glow plugs, updated o-rings on the injectors, repaired an exhaust leak on the drivers side. They had to pull the head to remove one of the glow plugs, as it was stuck in the head. It is possible that the shop did not do something correctly and this caused oil in the coolant. On the other hand, in all fairness to the shop, it is possible that the oil cooler began to develop leaks on its own. We may never know.
to mackie88, I've heard (anecdotally) that the powerstroke 6.0L has been real pain in the &&& for some folks. It sounds like you got one of the bad ones. A friend of mine refers to them as six-leakers. The 96 and 97 7.3L's have, I understand, a very good track record. I have to fault primarily myself for the current problem in that the shop to which I went to have the exhaust leak fixed did not have significant experience working on powerstrokes. The current shop has many years of experience and also has lots of technical training, specifically for powerstrokes.
I've replaced lots of parts on this truck, but I expected that. With only about 135k on the engine, it is barely broke in and, with proper care, should continue to do well for another 100k or so. The body and interior are near perfect and it has never been used as a work truck. I realize that the repairs and expensive, but that is a temporary situation and is far less expensive per mile than a new truck ($40,000+).
Becuase I justify ownership of this truck by pulling a fifth wheel with it, gas is not an option, neither in the F150 or F250 versions.
Thanks again, to all.
#95 of 1186 Ford F350 oil leak
Aug 15, 2007 (9:48 am)
I have got a 1997 Ford F350 7.3 LTR Power Stroke. I have got a major oil leak it seams to be coming from the back of the oil pan where it goes around the crank shaft. This gasket is a dealer item only. My question is to replace this gasket does the motor have to be taken out to get the oil pan off or is there an easier way? If it is not the oil pan gasket what else could it be? Rear crank shaft seal? If any one could help it would be great. Thanks
#96 of 1186 05 F350 Diesel 6.0L Coolant loss
Aug 15, 2007 (8:03 pm)
The engine has 59,000 miles on it.
It loses coolant, but I have not discerned the tell tale exhaust "smoke".
Since it does not lose coolant when I am not loaded, I am suspecting that it has to do with head bolts which are not properly torqued or bolts which do not have enough strength.
I noticed a number of posts pointing to head gaskets which (to me) confirms my suspicion about the head bolts not being up to the job. The leakage occurs under full load. Under that condition, the cylinder pressure would be at it's maximum and therefore I come back to the head bolts not being up to the job.
Due to my insistence, we will be doing a radiator pressure check under load and full heat tomorrow.
If you have any ideas, I am surely listening because the Diesel "experts" at the dealership don't seem to have a clue.
I realize that I am grasping at straws, but I need that truck running, not sitting in the shop. If I wanted that, I would move an easy chair into the show room floor and admire all that pretty tin.
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Thanks to all for any good ideas.
#97 of 1186 2005 Ford 6.0L diesel blowing head gaskets
Aug 17, 2007 (10:09 am)
2005 6.0L Ford (International) Engine.
We are now in stage two of the problem of blown head gaskets.
In spite of the fact that Ford has sent a bulletin to it’s dealers stating that the 6.0 L engine tends to blow it’s head gaskets, they are denying our claim.
They are stating that they will not service it under warranty because it has EXTERNAL TO THE ENGINE components which are not made by Ford. Conklin Company proved to John Deere that they can’t get away with that excuse.
It would appear that what they are saying is that for those who do have this engine, be sure that you do not ask that engine to work like a truck engine and that you should not do something so nasty as pulling your camping trailer with it. It would appear that I made a serious mistake of pulling my triple axle trailer up hill in warm weather. Guess I shall have to find a 1946 Chevrolet with the babbitted bearing 6 cylinder so that I can pull my trailer. I used that car to pull a very heavy trailer all over Colorado and the North central parts of the US. You would surely think that a big Ford V8 was more powerful and tougher than that Chevy straight 6. The Ford made only one trip up a long slope, and the Chevy pulled innumerable hills.
I surely hope that Ford/International get their act together. We will now go through a certification process covering the components Ford/International used to put the heads on that 6.0L
“See you in court” seems the path want us to be taking. That is a BAD idea on their part, because “word of mouth” spreads like wildfire these days.
If you have a similar problem, holler, and I will give you a rather large file of “to do’s”.
Remember this: Even if a dealer and or regional representative denies your claim, they do have a tacky problem to deal with called the law. When you bought your truck, you have a legal right to expect that it will function in a normal manner for a reasonable amount of time. Does anyone here think that 59,000 miles to failure is reasonable?
Aug 18, 2007 (5:57 am)
What gives you the right to expect Ford to be responsible when you take after market components not made by them and attach them to your engine?
Why don't you try to get the maker of the mod parts to fix your engine....
Its just amazing. What company has the engineering and money to invest in makeing a diesel engine component better than Fords? Don't think that that if a change was reliable possible, Ford would do it at the factory?
#99 of 1186 2004 6.0 diesel wont start fuel problem?
Aug 18, 2007 (5:30 pm)
First It has about 80,000 miles on it. It started running rough the other day no power at all, shut it off restarted it and it ran fine.Did it again the next day. Today it did it and when I shut it off it wont start back. It acts like it isn't getting fuel. I replaced the fuel filters but that didn't help. Any suggestions?
#100 of 1186 Re: 2004 6.0 diesel wont start fuel problem? [duckedup]
Aug 18, 2007 (5:45 pm)
I finally got it to start, but it runs very low rpms and if you give it fuel it does nothing just sits there sputtering.
#101 of 1186 Re: 05 F350 Diesel 6.0L Coolant loss [johnminn]
Aug 20, 2007 (2:21 am)
It did prove to be the head gaskets leaking.
The truck is still in the shop.
We did find out that the first sign of the failing head gaskets many times is the failure of the EGR coolant tube.
They don't want to cover it under warranty.
Now they have a dilemma because we have requested that they give us a signed refusal with and explanation for the reason they refuse to do it under warranty.
Sure not like the old days when they stood behind their equipment 100%.
#102 of 1186 Re: 05 F350 Diesel 6.0L Coolant loss [johnminn]
Aug 20, 2007 (11:18 am)
I guess I missed up in replying to your other email and it didnt come through as i just replied to this one and lost it also, lol.
Sorry but they already told you that because of what you did with putting on Aftermarket items they are not going to cover it. Why would they do what you want they are Ford with more money than most ever dream of having.
What all did you do to your truck as far as getting more power out of it ?