Last post on Nov 30, 2012 at 8:37 PM
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Toyota Camry Hybrid, Future Vehicle, Sedan
#204 of 213 Re: Hybrid vs. non-hybrid? [texastownhall]
May 30, 2009 (8:08 am)
Yep, at today's gas prices, the higher priced TCH will not pay for itself with gas savings. My 2007 TCH cost about $7,000 more than a base Camry (but Fed & state tax credits returned $3,000 of that).
After adding up the accessories standard to the TCH but additional cost on the base model, the hybrid system alone was roughly $1,800. Of course, if you don't want those goodies, then they're just an extra cost with little extra benefit. If you do, then the price gap is something less than your $6,000.
Pushing the "peddle to the metal" will cause both power sources to kick-in. The TCH will merge faster on a freeway than the I4 engine Camry. The TCH drives like a heavier car, which it is. It feels front heavy to me, but the weight distribution is actually better than the base Camry (batteries in the trunk).
On a cost efficiency basis, I think the TCH choice is hard to argue. One has to want something more than the best car for the fewest dollars spent. Good luck.
#205 of 213 Re: Hybrid vs. non-hybrid? [kdhspyder]
Jun 08, 2009 (6:33 am)
Okay. I understand about Hybrid being more like XLE than LE. So from that perspective you guys made a good buy.
But for me, I am looking for reliable mid-size family sedan at a reasonalbe price and low cost to own. That is why I am looking for good gas mileage.
It doesn't make sense to me to paying thousands of dollars more upfront for options that I don't necessariry need to save 5-10 mpg.
You can buy 09 Camry LE for around $17K.
Air (summer), power windows (toll booth), and power locks (standard nowadays) are options I want. Everything else, to some yes, but to me, it's not worth it.
#206 of 213 Re: Hybrid vs. non-hybrid? [texastownhall]
Jun 08, 2009 (7:13 am)
OK then here's a better solution.
Get a Certified Preowned Camry Hybrid for $20000 ( instead of $26000 ) and get all the features of an XLE and get far better fuel economy and get a better warranty.
#207 of 213 Re: Hybrid vs. non-hybrid? [texastownhall]
Jun 11, 2009 (5:56 am)
If you are looking for a good Mid size sedan, check out the Ford Fusion. Compared to the Camry, hands down a better car(sorry Toyota). From the reviews so far on the 2010 Fusion, looks like every one who has one loves it. I sat in a 2010 Fusion Sport edition, and OMG what a huge difference between the ford and Toyota, made my Camry feel cheap.
#208 of 213 Re: Hybrid vs. non-hybrid? [acdii]
Jun 11, 2009 (5:21 pm)
Yep this is the normal 'advancement' of the model lineup. The new Fusion now is the hottest vehicle in the segment for a lot of reasons. Soon the others will also have updated models out in the next year or two and they will leapfrong the Fusion. Then in 5 yrs the Fusion will leap over the others again.
Rinse, Wash, Repeat.
#209 of 213 The new 2.5 engine
Jun 12, 2009 (2:49 pm)
Anyone knows if and when the new 2.5 engine will make it to the camry hybrid?
#210 of 213 Things to improve
Jun 15, 2009 (4:30 pm)
I have had my 09 TCH for two weeks, so I am still learning, but here are a few comments.
1. Ability to disable the auto door locks. This was almost a deal breaker. But I am already tired of having to push the unlock button everytime I shift out of P.
2. Control of the fuel consumption readout. It only reads miles per tank, which is not what I am interested in. Ability to reset when desired would be more useful.
3. Finer control on the intermittent wiper settings. one per 3 seconds is too fast. A min of one per 10 sec would be much better, with about 6 total settings.
#211 of 213 Re: Things to improve [brunnegd]
Jun 16, 2009 (10:05 am)
The doors do unlock when you put it in park. Do you really want your doors unlocked while driving around? That feature was added to prevent carjackings.
#212 of 213 Re: Things to improve [acdii]
Nov 08, 2012 (11:45 am)
Doors locking and unlocking should be under the control of the driver. Same as auto headlights: Turning them on, or off, or allowing the car to do so is again up to the driver.
#213 of 213 Re: Toyota Camry Hybrid - Changes You'd Like To See [pf_flyer]
Nov 30, 2012 (8:37 pm)
1. Add the blizzard pearl color (white mica in it - nicer than flat white)
2. Window tinting for privacy (and sun protection, and keeping the car cool and protected) would be VERY welcome.
3. Offer a better standard sound system/screen as standard (especially given that the Accord has an 8" screen as standard now)
4. The emergency hand brake went away for a parking foot brake (much prefer the hand brake)
5. The leather seats in my 2002 Camry SE are wider and more comfortable than the new Camry Hybrid's - though possibly for weight/fuel/savings.
It has a gorgeous dash and very attractive instrument panel with soothing colors. They've done a lot of things right.