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#568 of 670 driving impressions on the TCH
Oct 19, 2010 (5:31 am)
I am driving the 2000 Camry now and test drove the 2011 TCH yesterday. Honestly, did not like it at all. Humongous body roll and too much play on the steering. Has anybody experienced it s well or is it just me? My 2000 Camry "hugs" the road much better. Not sure why Toyota has chosen to go down that path, but I am going to look at the Altima Hybrid today...
#569 of 670 Re: driving impressions on the TCH [connecticut2]
Oct 19, 2010 (6:00 am)
Well, hybrids are not known for "road hugging" because they are not designed as a sports car.
Some of them handle better than others, but the whole point of a hybrid is to enjoy it as a high mileage vehicle, and not to punish it on a tight, curvy mountain road.
I have owned two hybrids in the last 6 years, and the enjoyment comes from the MPG meter, not from the steering wheel.
#570 of 670 Re: driving impressions on the TCH [connecticut2]
Oct 19, 2010 (6:27 am)
Make sure you also check out the Fusion hybrid, better handling than the Camry.
#571 of 670 Re: driving impressions on the TCH [connecticut2]
Oct 19, 2010 (5:58 pm)
Keep in mind that your 2000 was a smaller car. the 2007-on Camry is a big vehicle and like most Japanese cars, a floater. I have a 2009 TCH and I like the heavier feel you get from the hybrid model. The Camry SE is supposed to be tighter. Currently i have 42K miles and it runs like a gem, with an average of 38 mpg. Not certain a ford Fusion can top that, despite what the ratings are.
#572 of 670 Re: driving impressions on the TCH [texases]
Oct 20, 2010 (7:04 am)
Fusion is more expensive...
#573 of 670 True cost of ownership (TCOW)
Oct 27, 2010 (9:32 am)
I was surprised to see the TCOW for the TCH is higher than that of the Accord - $0.57 vs $0.52. Considering the gas mileage of the TCH is about 30% higher than the Accord, does this mean the maintenance on the TCH is that much higher?
#574 of 670 Re: True cost of ownership (TCOW) [connecticut2]
Oct 28, 2010 (7:39 am)
Most cost comparisons I see assume vehicle ownership for only a few years. Given the TCH's initial higher cost, it's at a disadvantage in such comparisons. Payback on a hybrid takes many years, unless of course gas prices return to record highs.
I doubt higher maintenance has anything to do with it, with the exception of insurance premiums, which are a little higher. Repairs are more expensive on a hybrid.
Personally, my '07 TCH has cost me nothing more than routine maintenance.
#575 of 670 New TCH '11 cost and mileage
Jan 13, 2011 (11:34 pm)
Been cruising around in my new TCH and since it has yet to reach 500 miles I have not refueled yet. I trust the mileage calculation since our other 2 year old Toyota hybrid was pretty accurate.
Paid about $800 under invoice for it which was close to $4000 under sticker price. It is basically the fully loaded version. I am out here in Southern California so I do not think I need to worry about the cold weather affecting my mileage like in other parts of the country. So far the on-board computer system is showing about 38 mpg which I am inclined to believe.
My out the door price did not seem exceptionally good compared to some of the posts I see from 6 months back but then again, sales tax here is closer to 10% as opposed to 3% I saw for Virginia. Is that right?
Anyhow, very happy with my purchase. There are not a lot of posts about TCHs now so I am not sure if it is a dying model/concept/manufacturer but I have no complaints other than I do with the side mirrors would fold in. Otherwise, I am very satisfied.
#576 of 670 TCH Total Cost To Own
Dec 01, 2009 (10:19 am)
#577 of 670 TCH Total Cost To Own
May 23, 2007 (5:33 pm)
To date below is my total cost to own. With the State and Federal Tax Credits deducted from the $500 under MSRP purchase price, I figure my salvage value (trade in price) is the same as my total cost thus a net "$0" payment (ignoring the time value of money of course). I just replaced the Bridgestones at no cost with the Dealers Tires for Life program. Maintenance costs have been reasonable. Only overkill on maintenance is the dealer requires balancing every 5000 miles, but the total cost of maintenance is less than what a set of tires would have been.
The Bridgestones suck, but hey, the second set was free. I think the dealer would have been better off putting something on that was longer wearing. I think when I suggested the Michellin's they thought I was just wanting to waste their money. It would have saved them in the long run.
The MPG's calcilated below are the long hand manual calculation, a milage corrected calculation and the theoritical car computer reading calculation. I believe the milage corrected one to be the most accurate. You can see that the indicated (by the car computer) runs high and the manual calculation runs low (due to the speedo error). You can pretty well figure that if you manually calculate your mileage that the actual is almost half way between what the car computer reads and what you manually calculate. There are several threads where this is discussed back in 2006.
GASOLINE TOTAL $1,770.82
MAINTENANCE TOTAL $366.26
INSURANCE TOTAL $1,260.00
PAYMENT TOTAL $0.00
TOTAL COSTS $3,397.08
TOTAL MILES DRIVEN 24,912
TOTAL COST PER MILE $0.136
TOTAL AVERAGE mpg 37.73
GASOLINE COSTS PER MILE $0.071
Calculated MPG 37.73
Corrected MPG Calculation 38.29
Indicated MPG on trip computer 38.89
All in all it's been a great ownership so far.
Compared to the Infiniti that I traded I have saved almost $10,000 in one year with the tax credit, gas savings, insurance savings, lower payment (went ahead and paid it off)and lower maintenance costs