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RE: TCH Real Cost/Benefit by orly1
Feb 04, 2009 (8:41 am)
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dear pf_flyer,
 
have not read all 530 posts, but do ANY cross reference the other topic you host "TCH, MPG Real World Numbers".
 
Not every post there suggest real Cost/Benefit to owning TCH - especially if owner is having consistently LOW MPG tank averages.
 
the other thread is a little more balanced with people reporting disappointing MPG numbers, with most responses "blame the driver, driving condition". NOT the TCH or Yota for lack of response to these claims.
 
you host other thread also, how about some help? (post #828)
 
QUESTION: How can 10 MPG below EPA estimate be justified by Yota?
What should one do when Yota dealer, customer service say "car working according to expectations", yet absolutely not acceptable MPG?
 
most folks on the other thread (with my problem) seem to have just given up and accepted 29K cost with little hope of return on investment.
 
although no one has posted here recently, reading this thread would give a potential buyer of the TCH VERY UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS.
 
please cross reference the two topics.
 
thanks,
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RE: TCH Real Cost/Benefit [orly1] by quixotic1
Feb 04, 2009 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: orly1 (Feb 04, 2009 8:41 am)

My TCH is a 2007 with 40k miles.
 
I can say that I get around 36 mpg. This is a combo of city/hwy.
I live in South Florida. I used to get 39 to 40 until thay added ethanol to the gas here. I suspect that there are a combination of issues in your case.
1. Weather. 2. Length/type of trip. 3. Ethanol in your gas.
 
Try changing your brand of gas and having your injectors cleaned. This may help.
 
Good luck!
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by orly1
Feb 04, 2009 (4:52 pm)
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thank you quixotic1,
 
just took TCH to dealer - they said filter clean. wouldn't it turn up on computer if injectors need cleaning?
 
i would be really happy with just EPA estimate. 26/28 are MY numbers since purchase in june 08. not acceptable.
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MPG 5-10 BELOW EPA SINCE PURCHASE JUN08 by orly1
Feb 05, 2009 (7:07 am)
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Future Replies: Please try to click on green orly1 and read previous posts before suggesting "new tip"
 
are these forums in Toyota's pocket? Can anyone direct me to a single post where someone has shared this MPG issue and Toyota successfully resolved it?
 
where are the Edmund's HOST's? Do they just set up a topic then vanish? what is their role here?
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Re: MPG 5-10 BELOW EPA SINCE PURCHASE JUN08 [orly1] by larsb
Feb 05, 2009 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: orly1 (Feb 05, 2009 7:07 am)

Toyota customer service:
 
Phone: 800-331-4331
Fax: 310-468-7814
Mon - Fri, 5:00 am - 6:00 pm PST
Sat, 7:00 am - 4:00 pm PST
 
This page has a breakdown of things that might be helpful to you:
 
Toyota Customer Service: Tips for Getting Your Problem Solved
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Re: MPG 5-10 BELOW EPA SINCE PURCHASE JUN08 [larsb] by orly1
Feb 05, 2009 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 05, 2009 7:17 am)

oops,
 
thanks for article. made one mistake from article, called Toyota regional customer service rep first, however, don't believe service rep knew at which dealership i had service check.
 
i was polite, but Yota customer service said right out of the gate, if dealer computer check comes up "clean", there is NO NEXT STEP.
 
in my nature to compliment first, ask next, compliment again (sandwich like), so was polite to local mechanic at dealership.
 
car came up "clean", guy told me "everything working according to expectations" nothing they can do.
 
went to dealership closest to home. my car was bought at another dealership. article suggests talk to GM. should i contact GM where purchased car? Does it matter?
 
whole family has been loyal to Toyota for years, that's why disappointed.
 
yours truly,
 
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Re: MPG 5-10 BELOW EPA SINCE PURCHASE JUN08 [orly1] by larsb
Feb 05, 2009 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: orly1 (Feb 05, 2009 9:32 am)

Well, if you want anything done, you are going to have to REFUSE TO ACCEPT the "No Next Step" comment and keep moving up the chain.
 
Good luck.
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Poor gas mileage by gmyatko
Feb 05, 2009 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: orly1 (Feb 04, 2009 4:52 pm)

Boy, I sure don't understand your poor gas mileage. I will tell you that I own an '07 Camry and my friend owns an '07 Prius. I get better mileage than he does, because he just does not pay attention to SLIGHTLY changing his driving habits.
In my 5.5 mile commute to and from work, depending on how I drive, I can get less than 25 MPG if I drive like I used to, or regularly get 36 to 40 mpg, depending on how well I get the lights. On purpose, I've already driven an entire tankful my old way vs. my new way, and I've also noticed about the same mileage.
I keep my little bar graph going, and keep it above 35mpg but it's not unusual for me to keep it over 40 mpg on 20 mile trips on the flat highway out here in Phoenix. And I drive at or above the speed limit always. I do notice that at 75+, my mileage drops significantly, and if I have my bike rack on the back w/ 2 bikes, I also only get around 32 mpg on the highway. Did you check for a rubbing brake? Or a misalignment?
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Re: Poor gas mileage [gmyatko] by orly1
Feb 05, 2009 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: gmyatko (Feb 05, 2009 12:07 pm)

thanks for reply,
 
RE: Did you check for a rubbing brake? Or a misalignment?
 
just took to dealer, says all o.k. would not know how to check those things on my own.
 
i drive using all the tricks i know (and any new suggested), bought the car for gas saving. would probably be a "hypermiler" myself is car would co-operate
 
thanks for reply
 
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Re: MPG 5-10 BELOW EPA SINCE PURCHASE JUN08 [larsb] by orly1
Feb 05, 2009 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 05, 2009 9:59 am)

thank you larsb,
 
have checked carspace email, no message yet. just a request to be friends.
 
haven't you noticed, i AM persistent, i'm not going to give up easily,
however i may not always be as assertive as i would like because i am afraid i may go the other way and "loose my cool" on these folks.
 
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