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#476 of 670 First Impressions
May 08, 2008 (5:30 am)
Purchased our 2008 TCH Monday, May 5th (four days ago). Bought it sight unseen as a demo (the dealership owners wife was using it her car). The dealer had no hybrids on the lot - a two-month waiting list for Prius, and two base model TCHs en route for delivery next week. Our car had 3,600 miles on it at time of purchase. Never owned a Toyota previously. I really like the looks of the exterior and color Jasper (bug guts) Green. Interior is gray (preferred the bisque, but I like it enough). Our car is loaded (leather, nav sys, XM, sunroof, heated seats, etc).
Car is extremely quiet, even with the strange new grunts, clicks, and moans of the hybrid system. It's an adjustment to get used to the new sounds and the lack of the old sounds (engine revving up, transmission shifts, wind noise, et al). Starting the car for the first few times was a very different experience. Kinda fun. The car accelerates very nicely, smooth. Brakes are very strong. And then there's the mpg. Over several hundred miles we're getting between 40 - 42 mpg. For the size, comfort, performance and quality of the car, it's downright impressive.
The build quality is outstanding. exterior panels fit together extremely well. I've noticed that there seems to be a conscious attempt to reduce the number of body panels. Gives a very smooth, integrated appearance. The interior pieces also fit together very well. Very tight tolerances on the gaps. The door panels seem a little cheap to me (very plain), but they seem sturdy enough.
The nav sys is information overload at this point. I suppose that once I get used to it, it will become second nature selecting the different features. Right now, it is distracting and requires too much time "eyes off the road".
The information on the instrument panel display is, for the most part, informative, but sometimes redundant with the nav sys display. Some of the information seems a little frivolous (the engine/battery/charging status), but if you don't have the nav sys, you wouldn't otherwise have that info.
Sound sys is very good (I prefer the Bose sys in my truck). Controls, instruments, storage are all very well laid out, perhpas the best I've seen, and I've bought 12 new cars (and several used ones) since 1974.
Glove box is huge. Lots of storage cubbies throughout the cabin. Rear seat has more room than a Ford Crown Vic. Trunk space is limited, but not as bad as I was lead to believe in some reports. It's plenty bid to haul groceries or enough luggage for a road trip.
Seats are very comfortable, although I would like the bottom cushions to be a little longer for more thigh support. Also, I would like a broader range of adjustment up/down & fore/aft for the seats. A little more outward travel on the sterring wheel would be nice too. These are pretty nit picky details for such a nice car that performs adequatley and gets such great mileage.
That's my $.02! - Phil
#477 of 670 Decent price?
May 09, 2008 (2:05 pm)
I went to a dealer in SW OH (Dayton/Cinicinnati) today and was quoted price of invoice + 3%. The invoice price the dealer showed me was $28,2xx. This is for a loaded 2009 TCH - convience package, leather, upgrade package w/nav, moonroof. Is this a good price or can I do better?
#478 of 670 Re: seling out of 08 TCH [jaymk]
May 09, 2008 (6:20 pm)
My fully loaded inside and out 09 was $33, something at msrp and purchased at $31, something one week ago. I'm at work or I would grab my paperwork for exact numbers. I traded a 01 sequioa for $7,900 so that helped me out. I have no idea where and how the other buyers are getting $24,000 for a tch?
My best friend went in on Monday, ordered/put a deposit on a 09 TCH. they told her it would be in at the end of the month. They called her today and said it's here, come pick it up.
My salesman called me today to check on me and the car. He said that the dealers are now going 500-1,000 over msrp due to high demand. The salesmen don't have to pressure anyone to buy a hybrid since they are flying off the lot!
I am adjusting to lower head room compared to the sequioa (of course) and smaller side mirrors which makes me wonder why they are so small? Again, I was spoiled by the seq mirrors but I'm feeling like I can't see everything around me. Other than those two issues, I'm waving at the gas stations as I drive by. Our gas in Tulsa just went up 10 more cents in one day!
I am loving all the gadets inside....b/t, nav, sat radio and back up sensors! My friend is furious since she just bought a $70,000 lexus and only received Xm for 3 months and I got it for 6 months. Apparently, she can afford the additional 3 months!
ONE QUESTION? How are you all getting 38-42 mpg? I'm getting 31.7. I'm on my first tank of gas if that makes a difference. A friend just bought an 08 sequioa last week (yep, $50,000 and 14 mpg) and her salesman said that it takes a few tanks of gas before you start seeing the stated mpg?
Is there a breaking in period to get to your gas mileage or can you share some driving tips with me? I'm watching the screen that shows the energy used but still trying to figure out what it all means (blonde?) and how to get higher mpg?
Thanks for you help!
#479 of 670 Re: seling out of 08 TCH [new2hybrid]
May 09, 2008 (6:35 pm)
People are looking at them more now that gas prices are rising, but it's not like there are lines of people with $25K-30K of cash in hand lining up a dealers begging to buy any vehicle in this economy.
It may take a few tanks for the mpg to improve. I rented a TCH that had a few thousand miles on it for a day and got about 35 mpg in about 200 miles of driving around town and on the highway without using any special driving techniques.
#480 of 670 Re: Decent price? [gwilson]
May 10, 2008 (12:09 am)
I got mine(2009 TCH) from a dealer in San Jose, California in April for $27,900 and the MSRP was $31,405. Hope it helps.
#481 of 670 09 TCH Prices seem to be going up
May 10, 2008 (11:21 am)
Just picked up one in the Denver area. Had to order one and wait about 3 weeks. Closed for 28,5 (included all fees except sales tax) with nav, leather, sunroof, heated seats, mats. The fleet dealer said they were in big demand now and Toyota just announced a $300 price increase for the TCH this week. The prices on the Fitzmall website have also gone way up (around 29 for the loaded version), and the Edmunds TMV and CarsDirect sites are also showing even higher prices now. Must be the high gas prices coupled with the tax rebates rolling in increasing demand. Seemed like there were a lot of 08s available on the lots only a couple months ago., but they are all gone now. Definitely a nice car with lots of great features and was worth the short wait.
#482 of 670 Re: seling out of 08 TCH [new2hybrid]
May 11, 2008 (8:46 am)
Traci - it's a great car... a Lexus in sheep's clothing but you have to learn how to drive it to get the maximum mpg's. It completely changed my driving habits and I average between 38 and 41 mpg per tank. There are many older posts on driving tips... in a nutshell, it's learning how to accelerate easily and then coast... anticipate stops and do not over accelerate on starts... that was the very abridged version, you will find the posts go into much better detail than I.
#483 of 670 Re: seling out of 08 TCH [loves2read]
May 12, 2008 (10:41 am)
Whose economy is strong?
#484 of 670 Re: seling out of 08 TCH [bkushner]
May 13, 2008 (3:34 am)
right now the DFW area and others in TX are doing fairly well--
home sales are happening---people are buying cars and eating out still--cars in Wal-Mart and Target lots and at the mall
prices are higher in grocery stores and our gas pumps like everywhere else but we have not seen big layoffs--
some of them are coming as the mortgage crunch is starting to hit home (they are closing a Citi Bank facility w/100 employees in my town this month)
business constructions is still happening and there are new housing developments going in as well
#485 of 670 Re: seling out of 08 TCH [plknj]
May 13, 2008 (5:35 pm)
My first tank of gas gave me 31.7 mpg. My second tank is showing 36.4 and above. I actually saw 40.3 ! Wow! I'm loving this car! Love all of the loaded goodies too!
When researching the car online, it says that you should get 580 miles per tank. We will see?
I'm starting out easy at the intersections now so wee will see what happens.
thanks for the driving tip