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tips for female in Oklahoma by new2hybrid
Apr 28, 2008 (7:41 pm)
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I'm purchasing the 2009 TCH in a week. I'm very excited after I finally made the decision to go w/Camry vs. Prius-tough call when it comes to cargo room in prius vs. sedan style w/sunroof! I debated forever! Still am tonight! Chick thing I guess:)
 
After reviewing your messages and pricing tips, I'm concerned I'm getting a jacked up price? My car is loaded w/leather, nav, sunroof, b/t, etc. and is priced at $33,$$$ (something) and they brought it down to $31,300. Checking out the website provided (fitsway) by other blogger...I didn't see anything over a msrp of $31, $$$? Should my car start at $31,$$$ then get the discount? This salesman has spent 5 hours with me showing me all three hybrids, test drives..etc
 
Also, I read how the car salesman said to skip everything that the dealership is going to try to sell me at closing next week? Can anyone share additional tips for me? What to buy and what to pass on? Please? I'm worried now about the salesman throwing and trying to convince me of buying more stuff!
 
Thanks for your help! It is greatly appreciated and needed.
Traci
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Re: tips for female in Oklahoma [new2hybrid] by snaab93se1
Apr 28, 2008 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: new2hybrid (Apr 28, 2008 7:41 pm)

First of all...you are right...the highest you will find a sticker price will be in the low $31,000 range. The $33000 price you are being given has $2000 of dealer add ons....just say you don't want any of them and you will not pay for them. You should not have to pay sticker price for this car....if you look on the forums you will see most have been selling for around $28000 for a fully loaded 2009 and $27000 for a fully loaded 2007.
Do not buy any of the added extras they try to sell you...they are overpriced and you'll probably regret it. They will prey on you and make you think you are making a mistake by not buying everything they have to offer....just say NO NO NO.
If they are not willing to deal with you leave.....you will see how quickly they will fold and work with you. Remember there are other car dealers with other cars that would be happy to sell one to you.
I have a 2008 Camry Hybrid for about 3 months now.,...best car I have ever gotten....and the last few cars I have driven were BMW, Lexus and Mercedes.
As long as you can live with the trunk size you'll love the car...2800 miles so far and averaging just over 38 mpg.
Just beware of the high pressure to buy...I would suggest taking along someone with you so you are not alone. Hope this helps and if you have any other questions....feel free to ask
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Re: tips for female in Oklahoma [snaab93se1] by jaymk
Apr 28, 2008 (9:06 pm)
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Replying to: snaab93se1 (Apr 28, 2008 8:53 pm)

I completely agree. Make sure take somebody else with you as they are definitely going to use the pressure tactics.
There are quite a few dealerships in OK city if you are in the city, like Bob howard, Huddiburg, Fowler to name some. If you would like to have the complete list just go to the toyota website and put your zip code in the dealer search box.
Good Luck
Thankyou
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Re: tips for female in Oklahoma [new2hybrid] by lzc
Apr 29, 2008 (3:26 am)
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Replying to: new2hybrid (Apr 28, 2008 7:41 pm)

The above advice is all good. I would add that deciding what is a reasonable price to pay before going in to buy is a good way to go, and then stick to it. Be prepared to leave if the dealer is playing games with you. Some won't. A few are reforming their ways.
 
Fitzmall.com is a good place to get an idea on a fair price. I've also emailed dealers in the region. Tell them what you want, listing optional equipment. Most should respond. Dealers today are hungrier than when the TCH came out and MSRP was the going price.
 
Some people obsess about price. They'll fight and claw for that last $200 savings. It isn't worth it in my opinion. You'll turn the experience into a war. If the sales rep has provided good service, he deserves to earn a living. But you don't need to pay off the balance on his boat loan!
 
Yep, skip the "special" coatings, dealer financing, ascent trims, etc., and shop around for an extended warranty if you want one. They're available from by email from dealers who sell for less.
 
Good luck.
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Re: tips for female in Oklahoma [new2hybrid] by wvgasguy
Apr 29, 2008 (4:00 am)
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Replying to: new2hybrid (Apr 28, 2008 7:41 pm)

It would be interesting to see what items are listed in the $33,XXX just to see if it is a rip off or perhaps just overpriced or unnessary items (like Chrome wheels, spoiler, ets) that truly do have a cost to the dealership. Many people on this site have added custom wheels, spoilers and other cosmetic addons themselves so saying those are a ripoff isn't quite correct if indeed that's what's jacking the price up. However if it's things like additional advertising, environmental fee, undercoating (on a car already with a long warranty), paint sealant (a $500 wax job), etc, then skip it. I develop a relationship with my sales person. I do want them to make a living and still be there when I return to trade. However most of those relationships begin with me telling them, don't insult me or treat me as if I don't know what I'm doing or I'll walk away and not be back. However treat me fairly and you'll have my loyalty. I've had a lot of experience over the years and have indeed walked away, even from something I wanted. You ALWAYS have to be willing to walk away. They can sence it when you won't and they have you!
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2009 TCH by nkaizer
Apr 29, 2008 (6:38 am)
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I echo the comments of the previous responders. I got my $500 above invoice for my loaded 2009 TCH (31xxx, vs, 28xxx) and they stuck to that sale price even though the car came in with dealer added options such as the rear bumper applique, trunk mats, etc.
You have incredible power. Tell him you only want factory loaded options and hit the road if the maxed out car is above 28 and change.
 
It's not a Lexus for christ's sake!
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Re: 2009 TCH [nkaizer] by texases
Apr 29, 2008 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: nkaizer (Apr 29, 2008 6:38 am)

All the above, plus watch out for pressure at the closing to get the extended warranty. They may talk about how complex it is, etc., but you must say no. You can get it later, cheaper if you want (I never do), but NEVER buy an extended warranty in the closing, unless you're a car buying expert (and you wouldn't be asking if you were).
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Re: tips for female in Oklahoma [jaymk] by new2hybrid
Apr 29, 2008 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: jaymk (Apr 28, 2008 9:06 pm)

Wow! Thank you all for your adivice!
 
The car was listed at $33,something w/leather, spoiler, b/t, sunroof, heated seats, nav,...all the bells and whistles. The sales man got it down to $31, something. Which I'm thankful for! I really like the guy and he's worked with me for 5 + hours by now. I'm all about the guy getting paid to sell me a car but I was just making sure that I'm not getting suckered either! I'm trading in a 01 Seq, 137,000 miles on it and they are giving me $7,900 for it! So that helps with my final price!
 
I'm taking your advice and going back in tonight. Also, thanks for telling me to skip the closing sales pitch for additonal items to buy! That is a huge help!
 
Thank you all for your help! I feel like I have some brothers, uncles and fathers out there helping me Thank God I got on Edmunds last night and read all of your messages!
 
Thanks!
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Re: tips for female in Oklahoma [new2hybrid] by otterman
Apr 29, 2008 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: new2hybrid (Apr 29, 2008 7:00 am)

Hi. Saw your post and thought it might help to check out a good website for the car buying process - http://www.carbuyingtips.com
We bought an '08 Camry Hybrid last July and are shopping for a Prius for our daughter right now, and I found the site to be very helpful. I also think your dealer has added on to the MSRP of the vehicle. Our fully loaded (every option available) Camry had an MSRP of $31,200 and we paid $28,300 at that time.
Car buying can be stressful so I hope this helps.
Good luck.
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Re: tips for female in Oklahoma [new2hybrid] by wvgasguy
Apr 30, 2008 (4:11 am)
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Replying to: new2hybrid (Apr 29, 2008 7:00 am)

The car was listed at $33,something w/leather, spoiler, b/t, sunroof, heated seats, nav,...all the bells and whistles. The sales man got it down to $31
 
Again, the extra "bells and Whistles" are unneccessary add ons. There aren't enough factory options to push the price to $33K+. Don't let the fact that you "like" the salesperson make you think he won't take advantage of you.
 
Edmunds has a feature that will let you price the car out showing the MSRP and Invoice on all the options. Use it and know what you are paying for. There are a lot of these on the floor, buy the one you want. If you're willing to pay $31 for a TCH I'm guessing you can go anywhere you want and get exactly what you want.

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