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#441 of 558 Re: Just picked up my new '08 [plknj] by gatorman89 Apr 21, 2008 (1:51 am)
Replying to: plknj (Apr 17, 2008 3:53 pm) I got the one with Upgrade package and Sunroof (no Nav or leather)... My 08 was the last one on the lot and the manager gave me a great deal.. I didn't want to dish out the $2500-$3000 extra for the nav and Leather on the 09.. Besides, I've got Verizon with GPS and can use it anytime to navigate.   Like you, I've been enjoying the MPG too... I'm averaging 37-38 so far with a few trips hitting 40... It's great to get over 150 miles for a 1/4 of a tank. Over the weekend I drove my wife's 02 Volvo S80 and used some of the "TCH" driving style.. amazingly, my MPG's went from 20 in town to 25... Reckon I'm developing new/helpful habits with the TCH.   Enjoy.
#442 of 558 Re: TCH '07 by jcihak Apr 21, 2008 (5:33 am)
Replying to: gatorman89 (Apr 21, 2008 1:43 am) My wife just traded her '06 Pilot for an '08 Camry hybrid. The price was great - with the $1000 rebate it was less than a Prius would have been. My wife has been getting about 35mpg - all city stop/go. I tried her commute yesterday though and got 43mpg with lots of red lights. I am very impressed.   The car is much better than I expected. The tech is great - it paired with both our cell phones and the Nav is better than I thought (I also have a Civic with Nav and a portable Nav to compare to). I only wish headroom with the sunroof was better. I'm 6'0" and my head touches the headliner.   As far as tires go, all the OEMs I've had on new cars (NOT on SUVs though) needed replacement within 30k. They have all head low treadwear ratings to prove it. The Michelins on the Camry have a 440 treadwear which is better than your average OEM though.   I can have replaced the OEMs on my last Civic and Accord with Goodyear Tripletreads. Their handling is very, very noticeably better than any the OEM tires. I love them. However, I think I may have lost almost 1 mpg with the Tripletreads too. Given their 740 wear rating they should last a long time and hope they make up for the mileage.
#443 of 558 Re: TCH '07 [lzc] by wvgasguy Apr 21, 2008 (9:54 am)
Replying to: lzc (Apr 18, 2008 3:20 pm) I'm at 46,000 miles and starting my third set of tires. The first two were the originals and a replacement of same Bridgestones. The third set though I paid extra to get the Michellin's. I am in a tires for life program and didn't have to pay for the first replacement so I didn't complain. However the Bridgestones got noisy and I just didnt' want them anymore so for $138 extra the dealer installed Michellin. I'll be curious to see how many sets of tires I go through on this car before I trade it.   BTY, I rotate at 5,000 miles and align annually in the program. The tires wore evenly, but just wore out quickly (and completely) at about 22,500 miles. Totally unacceptable for non-performance tires in my opinion. Just glad I wasn't paying for them. Replies to this message: nvbanker (Apr 21, 2008 9:55 am) wvgasguy (Apr 21, 2008 10:00 am) nvbanker (Apr 21, 2008 10:02 am) and 1 more... plknj (Apr 21, 2008 5:04 pm)
#444 of 558 Re: TCH '07 [wvgasguy] by nvbanker Apr 21, 2008 (9:55 am)
Replying to: wvgasguy (Apr 21, 2008 9:54 am) WHY, may I ask, does this particular car chew through tires like it obviously does? Is there THAT much extra weight up front? Replies to this message: wvgasguy (Apr 21, 2008 10:00 am) nvbanker (Apr 21, 2008 10:02 am) wvgasguy (Apr 21, 2008 10:11 am)
#445 of 558 Re: TCH '07 [nvbanker] by wvgasguy Apr 21, 2008 (10:00 am)
Replying to: nvbanker (Apr 21, 2008 9:55 am) I have no idea, but I would think the car is not that much differently balanced (weight distribution wise) than a V6 model. My daughters Corola was just as bad. I'm hoping the Michellin's will help. Should know in a year   One problem I'm sure are the "V" rated tires. Why does a car like this need V rated tires. Surely as many of these as Toyota makes they could have gottten a tire developed specifically for the camry that had a long tread wear life. Replies to this message: nvbanker (Apr 21, 2008 10:02 am) wvgasguy (Apr 21, 2008 10:11 am)
#446 of 558 Re: TCH '07 [wvgasguy] by nvbanker Apr 21, 2008 (10:02 am)
Replying to: wvgasguy (Apr 21, 2008 10:00 am) Assuming the alignment is correct, there is no reason, nor any explanation for this excessive tire wear. I have to assume therefore, that alignment is indeed the problem, and the caster, camber or alignment in general is not correct on these cars. Replies to this message: wvgasguy (Apr 21, 2008 10:11 am)
#447 of 558 Re: TCH '07 [nvbanker] by wvgasguy Apr 21, 2008 (10:11 am)
Replying to: nvbanker (Apr 21, 2008 10:02 am) I did have an alignment problem when the car was delivered but immediately corrected that. The tires wore evenly with no cupping, feathering or edge wear. Nothing unusual at all.   My Nissan 2003Z did indeed have an uncorrectable alignment problem that caused me to replace the tires at 15000 miles (unbearable noise though after 10,000 miles). I got rid of it and will not get another first year model of a complete remake.
#448 of 558 First time buyer by sada Apr 21, 2008 (1:02 pm)
We are considering buying a 2009 camry hybrid and I just wanted to ask a few questions.   Have you had any problems with the electric motor or battery system?   Is it worth the extra money you paid for the hybrid?   Would you buy another   Are there any special maintenance cost you have encountered?   Thanks for all you help. Replies to this message: lzc (Apr 21, 2008 7:11 pm)
#449 of 558 Re: TCH '07 [wvgasguy] by plknj Apr 21, 2008 (5:04 pm)
Replying to: wvgasguy (Apr 21, 2008 9:54 am) You should be very happy with the Michellin's. Mine came with the car and I probably have another few thousand miles left on them (just had them checked) and that's at 35,000+ with rotating them with every oil change. These tires have lasted longer than any of my other tires have on my past cars.
#450 of 558 Re: First time buyer [Sada] by lzc Apr 21, 2008 (7:11 pm)
Replying to: sada (Apr 21, 2008 1:02 pm) 1. Problems? None. Thy hybrid system performs as advertised.   2. Worth extra money? Personally, yes. But, to be fair, it depends on factors that differ with all of us. The price difference between a fully equipped Camry and TCH is modest. It's more in a base LX model, which can be had for thousands less. Any tax credits in your state? How long will you keep the car and how high will gas prices go, etc? Expect about 10 extra mpg. I figure savings of $350-400 per year at $3.50/gal. (Gas in the SF Bay Area was $3.90 today!)   3. Yes, I'd buy another.   4. No extra maintenance costs so far. Eventually, the hybrid coolant will need replacing (10 years, I think). The standard battery is non-standard. I'll probably need to buy it from Toyota, but it should last longer than most batteries. In short, nothing major. The warranty on hybrid components is longer than the standard guarantee.   Bottom line, the TCH has exceeded my expectations. Good luck.

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