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114 messages, Last post on Mar 19, 2007 at 4:46 AM
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Jul 15, 2006 12:44 pm) IIRC the driver got 4 stars in the govt test and the second highest score, "Acceptable", on the IIHS test. Cause of that? Some foot intrusion by the gas pedal, otherwise it was great and if you look at the details of the tests you'll see the same thing. Call me crazy, but I think a vast majority of people will have already moved their right foot away from the gas pedal and to the brake making that supposed intrusion a non-factor. I don't put much weight in those tests myself unless a vehicle scores extremely poorly. I drive a Mazda6 without side bags or curtains and it scored poorly in places. However, it handles like it's on rails and stops before it hits the dime so my accident avoidence quotient is higher than most other vehicles. |
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Replying to: dino001 (Mar 10, 2006 5:11 am) Its folks like yourself that spread wrong information. The Ford Fusion DID NOT "FAIL" this test. An Acceptable is not failing. Please read the difference between an Acceptable and a Good before you go on ranting and raving about the Fusion being a death trap. Not true, Fusion is a safe vehicle. Also, educate yourself about how many vehicles that are new models, and newer models that don't get a 5 star safety rating.. And if you read the crash test, the Fusion was very close to a 5 star rating.. 
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Replying to: scape2 (Jul 20, 2006 2:05 pm) |
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Did anybody read IIHS report of Zephyr? Even with side impact airbags/curtains it did not score so great. Got acceptable, if I recall. Not exactly a death trap, but not great either, considering 30K+ sticker. This can be extended to Fusion/Milan when they get their airbags standard. As I said before - Mazda6 chassis is just not robust enough to support crash tests with the same results as the close competition. Great rideability, not so hot crashworthiness. On long run it may cost them sales, if the competition keeps coming with good/best pick ratings for all impacts.
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Replying to: dino001 (Aug 16, 2006 4:24 am) Consider the fact that more often then not, any vehicle with side impact airbags will provide better protection then an older one without them (Unless of course the design is completly defective, which this one is not.) If the Fusion/Milan/Zephyr outperforms the Camcord in the other important driving (and even saftey areas other then impact testing) areas, then I don't think only having "acceptable" protection in the unlikely event of a side collision should be a deal breaker. And yes, if anyone is wondering, I HAVE been in a crash or two (one in a Subaru where the airbags deployed improperly...) and even a side impact. That was in a 1989 Mazda 626 at around 80 MPH. All I had to do was change a tire and I drove it home. (Naturally there was frame damage, but that wasn't what I was worried about that night..) Anyway, not getting perfect rating doesn't mean a car is "unsafe". It's important that customers understand that. Safety IS very important, if not THE most important thing. But there are also a lot of other features and factors under that topic. Another reason I'm excited for the 2007 Fusions with AWD! 
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Replying to: jordanrobinson (Aug 16, 2006 8:45 am) If Camry, Accord, and say Malibu with airbags get "good" and Fusion gets only acceptable, it may potentially kill the sales. Doesn't have to, but may. Joe Smith watches another Dateline and get from it that Camry is safer than Fusion. Guess what is he going to buy.
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Replying to: dino001 (Aug 16, 2006 11:58 am) In the meantime let's hope a lot of the positives outweigh the negetives. Something seems to be working ok, the Fusions have been selling consistantly. And with the inclusion of AWD in 2007 and a Hybrid in development there should be a lot of good reasons to get the customers on the lot. From that point it's up to folks like me to see if it's a good fit for them! 
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Replying to: dino001 (Aug 16, 2006 11:58 am) The test results for front impact are actually worse on the Fusion than the aging Taurus!!! Even with 5 star results from the test, you might still get killed or injured if your real word crash is more severe than the test conditions, so you should want to a least have a car that can ACE the crash test and keep your potential injuries at a minimum. |
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Aug 16, 2006 4:50 pm) That's not to say they aren't useful but they have to be taken with a grain of salt - and for me that applies just as much to the 5 star recipients as well as the less fortunate.
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 16, 2006 7:34 pm) I do not assume that a real word crash would be like the test at all. I specifically said a real crash may be even worse, so I would want a car that can at least do well in that one controlled test that all other cars do. Perhaps I might still get injured in a real world crash in a car that had a 5 star test result, but I might be injured even worse in a car that cannot easily withstand even that crash in a controlled enviroment. If the car hits a 35 MPH in the test, what if the real world car hits at 39 instead? However worse the lower rated cars did at 35 mph in the test would be magnified at a higher speed.
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