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114 messages, Last post on Mar 19, 2007 at 4:46 AM
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Replying to: scape2 (Jun 04, 2006 6:51 pm) This is a highly competitive environment compared to what they worked within in the 1960's and 70's. The World has changed. We need Bold Moves! -Loren |
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Replying to: m1miata (Jun 04, 2006 10:45 am)
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Replying to: scape2 (Jun 04, 2006 6:51 pm) By running their own tests and publicizing them, they are hoping to minimize sales of vehicles they consider not as safe. It that minimize cost thing again. Remember, it's cheap to repair or replace a vehcile. Supporting a person with a major injury for life isn't.
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Replying to: robr2 (Jun 05, 2006 1:16 pm) If they were related (funded) to say equipment manufacturers then someone could build a case against their recommendations as biased and possibly conflicted. Or if they were funded by vehicle manufacturers themselves and suddenly or founders' products were found "Best picks". Surely insurance industry interest is not always fully coincident with that of the customer's, as their risk assessment and particular product experience maximizing objectives are not the same (insurance wants you to buy safest vehicle period, you want to buy vehicle that represents best value and satisfies your overall needs and desires). However, in case of actually finding out which vehicles are safest (thus protecting life of consumer and pocketbooks of insurance industry), the interest is the same. What may differ is use of that information in the decision process, i.e. purchase decision vs. insurance rate determination. It is always very funny to watch how manufacturer's react to test results. When they get best pick or good or five stars, they put it on their commercials and brag all around, when the same manufactures get not so great results on another vehicle, suddenly those test "do not represent vehicle's overall safety" or something of that nature. Can't blame then, but why consumers/fans fall for that, it's beyond me. |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jun 05, 2006 10:30 am) |
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Replying to: m1miata (Jun 04, 2006 7:40 pm) Hyundia is trying very, very hard to gain market share and reputation here in the U.S. markets. The Sonata is a good vehicle now doubt. Fusion will have side air bags standard by fall on all Fusions. stability control too is on the way. More HP, why is the Fusion only tenths of a second slower 0-60? the human mind cannot comprehend tenths of a second. I doubt the everyday driver would notice. Hyundia assembles the Sonata here in the U.S. profits go to Korea. Tooling at the plant, Korean, technical support, Korean, support for tooling, Korean, assemblers, American. I know my Fusion was made in Mexico, but profits made it back to U.S. Majority of tooling U.S., technical/engineering mostly U.S. The Fusion handles and drives better than a Sonata hands down. The styling of the Fusion makes a Sonata look very plain and frumpy. Both cars have their strengths and weaknesses. |
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Replying to: scape2 (Jun 05, 2006 7:35 pm) I may give one a test drive some day. In a few months, the 2007 will be out. Fusion has a bit more style than brand X, and maybe a little better handling, not sure, but Ford better concentrate on getting the product up to knock-out class, as at least some people read car magazines, and internet reviews and so far I don't think Fusion is kicking butt, or in the top three. I may be wrong - any site URLs where it tested above the rest? Safety, content, handling, comfort, gas mileage, resale value, power... well you know, we are getting spoiled these days and want it all. Style wise the Fusion/Milan are a bit more interesting to the eye than most of the competition. But the competition is changing too - nothing static here in the auto world. Even Camry is now stylish, though one may notice a little bump on the nose - not sure why. Maybe Bill Ford punched the poor little car  -Loren |
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Replying to: scape2 (Jun 05, 2006 7:35 pm) That is true, but from a marketing perspective it might as well be. If 90% of the vehicles tested earn a 5 star and ABC Motors earns 4, the consumer wonders why they didn't try harder. 5 stars is expected - anything less is failing. Hyundia assembles the Sonata here in the U.S. profits go to Korea. Tooling at the plant, Korean, technical support, Korean, support for tooling, Korean, assemblers, American. I know my Fusion was made in Mexico, but profits made it back to U.S. Majority of tooling U.S., technical/engineering mostly U.S. There's no guarantee the tooling/engineering/support is made in the home country. The auto industry is now so globalized that "home" country really doesn't mean anything other than where the CEO hangs out when he/she isn't on an airplane. I wouldn't be suprised to see that Ford derives more profits outside the US. Does that make it a foreign company? Is Renault/Nissan French or Japanese? At one time Honda considered moving it's world HQ to the US because it was starting to consider itself an American company. The other important factor is the need for suppliers to co-locate near the assembly plant. That requirement drives job creation as well. Bosch, Denso, Visteon et al all locate near the assembly plant - where ever that may be.
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Replying to: scape2 (Jun 05, 2006 7:35 pm) The first sentence is true and unless you can provide some evidence of the second one being true then everyone should ignore that sentence because nothing has been released about stability control on the Fusion. It is most certainly not in the 2007 order guide.
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jun 06, 2006 4:55 am) I don't think Ford has made stability control available on any of their cars yet. Unfortunately buyers are apparently willing to pay much more than what the cost of ESC would be in order to have all-wheel drive, so that is what they are going sell.
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