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Re: T & C Electrical Problem [joepeterson56] by xwesx
Aug 10, 2009 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: joepeterson56 (Aug 10, 2009 11:42 am)

Good call, Joe! I did not think to consider that it may be a current problem on that poster's van!
 
Unfortunately, my van energizes just fine.... the problem is isolated to something relating to the fuel pump circuit. I do not think it is the pump itself, but there are other things that can be causing it, so I am just slowly trying to eliminate possibilities. Very frustrating. At 213,000 miles, even though the van runs perfectly when the FUBAR electrical system will actually let the engine start, it may be time to say goodbye. In any case, it is worth a heck of a lot more if it runs....
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Re: T & C Electrical Problem [xwesx] by xwesx
Aug 13, 2009 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Aug 10, 2009 11:51 am)

I managed to get our Caravan up and running yesterday; it is back to being smooth as butter! For some reason, when I tried connecting my OBD-II reader to it while diagnosing the problem (turned out to be a bad fuel pump), the reader would not link to the van. It just said, "ERROR." I need to check it again now that everything else is working properly. If the link is still bad, I will do a little more research into possible causes. We may end up getting rid of it if we cannot use the on-board diagnostics system, as that could be a disaster later on as more problems inevitably arise. If I can fix it, though, I will.
 
I was surprised that the fuel pump was the problem, given the symptoms. Someone suggested that the motor may have a "dead spot" in it that just slowly became worse and only manifested itself if the pump happened to stop with the gearing in just the right position. In any case, it is fixed now after much effort. The pump ended up costing $250, plus another $20 for a few miscellaneous parts to drain the fuel, etc., for a total cost of $270 and about ten hours of time diagnosing the problem and performing the repair.
 
So, now that I had the battery drained/disconnected for a while, the console lights (wiper, int. wiper, recirc, and A/C buttons) flash for about ten minutes after starting. I know I read somewhere on here about the procedure for resolving that, but cannot find the post. Does anyone know? It does not seem to affect the operation of anything, but it would be nice to not have the distraction....
 
Thank you for any suggestions,
 
-Wes-
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possible electrical or fuel system problem by jtlj
Aug 25, 2009 (9:19 pm)
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i own a 2002 dodge caravan with a 2.4 liter motor it only has 32,000 miles on it if i drive some place and shut off the motor it has to sit for about one hour for the vehicle to restart the cam and crank sensors were replaced and the fuel filter was replaced the fuel pump appears to be working properly also the asd relay checked out ok and the coil pack checked out ok it is not getting any fuel to the throttle body it appears a component is getting hot preventing fuel from getting to the throttle body during the start cycle it will not start untill some part cools down i have had two garages work on the vehicle the mechanics are not sure what the problem is does anybody have a clue what is wrong with this van thank you for your consideration
#351 of 383
Re: T&C Electrical Problems [badgerfan] by kablo
Aug 26, 2009 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: badgerfan (Jul 18, 2006 7:47 am)

It just happened to my 2005 T&C (today) . I am working on it. If I get any results I will let you know
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Re: T & C Electrical Problem [tat4] by jay_raya
Aug 31, 2009 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: tat4 (Aug 09, 2009 7:19 pm)

tat4 ... did you solve your problem?
 
I have a clicking noise coming from the fuse box. I was wondering if you could tell me what did you do to solve your clicking noise.
 
Jay
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1997 Town & Country Dashboard Trim Removal by screwedbygm
Sep 15, 2009 (4:46 pm)
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Hi all,
This may sound like a simple-minded request but the dashboard trim is all plastic and probably becoming extra brittle with age. I need to remove the trim around the instument cluster so as to remove it for the solder repair or replacement so widely discussed in this forum. Since I cannot see any screws, it probably just pries off but I've tried gently in several places with nothing yielding. Can someone please help out by explaining exactly how to pop this trim off without breaking it. Perhaps other members are similarly frustrated also.
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No-start related to ASD circuit by xwesx
Sep 18, 2009 (9:46 am)
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1998 Dodge Grand Caravan SE AWD, 3.8L V6, 213,000 miles
 
Mechanically, this van is perfect and it runs/drives with precision. Regrettably, it is suddenly inundated with electrical gremlins and I cannot figure out the source. Any suggestions welcome.
 
Here is the thing: I have about a 50% chance of the van starting. If, when I turn the ignition to "on," I hear the fuel pump whir, the van starts perfectly. If, instead, I do not hear the fuel pump whir and then hear a relay "click" about 1-2 seconds after turning the ignition to "on," the van will crank and crank, but not start. In this situation, I have no spark, fuel injector activity, or fuel pump activity. So, the ASD circuit must not be powered. However, the information I read indicates this circuit is controlled by the operation of the camshaft and crankshaft sensors. I am getting power to the sensors, so I replaced them. No change.
 
Where else might the problem be? My relays all seem to test fine, etc., but yet the problem persists. If it starts, it will keep running without fail. Once it is turned off, though, it is anyone's guess if it will start again. I will state that I have not yet had it fail to start shortly after shutting it off. Whether or not that is symptomatic or coincidence, I am not yet sure.
 
I am at my wit's end with this van and am seriously thinking about scrapping it. I hate to do that, given the excellent condition of everything but the electrical, but there comes a point when I just have to decide that this is one stress I no longer need to have. Of course, that is complicated by the fact that when I do fix this issue, I am going to sell it, but I will not dupe a buyer and sell a vehicle I know is unreliable.
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Re: No-start related to ASD circuit [xwesx] by srs_49
Sep 18, 2009 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Sep 18, 2009 9:46 am)

From your description of the symptoms, I would go after the fuel pump.
 
Disconnect one of the fuel line hoses at the fuel filter (not sure exactly where this is on your vehicle). Try starting the car and see if you get fuel flow out of the line. Obviously, use something to catch the fuel. Do this maybe a dozen times and see if the fuel flow or lack thereof can be correlated to the "not hearing the fuel pump whir" symptom you mentioned.
 
Be careful, and keep a fire extinguisher handy. There's always a danger when you're dealing with raw fuel like this.
#356 of 383
Re: No-start related to ASD circuit [srs_49] by xwesx
Sep 18, 2009 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: srs_49 (Sep 18, 2009 12:36 pm)

I know it seems like it might be the pump, but it is not. In fact, I just replaced the old fuel pump because it did go bad. The van worked just fine for about two weeks afterward, and now this new problem. It definitely involves the ASD relay circuit, however, because I do not get the spark or fuel. When the pump went bad, I had spark and fuel injector activity, but there was just no fuel pressure in the line.
 
I appreciate the suggestion!
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Dashboard disco by wantanewcar2
Sep 29, 2009 (5:21 pm)
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We have a 2005 Town and Country minivan. It has been having serious intermittent electrical problems which no mechanic seems to want to figure out. The analog dials will spin, lights on dash flicker, warning lights go on and off, radio crackles, dvd player crackles, HVAC will pulse air when it is in the off position, etc. These "episodes" last a few seconds to a few minutes. Occasionally the car will completely shut down if there is a lot of flashing and dial spinning going on. Has anyone ever had problems like these...and did someone actually figure out what the problem is?

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