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#212 of 221 Re: 2006 intermittent fuel problem? [Mr_Shiftright]
Jan 02, 2013 (9:07 am)
Oh how I miss the good ol' days....points, rotor buttons, distributer caps....and that $15 mechanical fuel pump that bolted onto the side of the engine block......
#213 of 221 Re: 2006 intermittent fuel problem? [dddaddio]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jan 02, 2013 (9:37 am)
I ran out of ways to fix my own cars with my own hands in about 1995. I'm way behind the curve myself now. Well I can change oil, plug in a scan tool, do brake pads, fuses, battery, light bulbs--but that's about the short list.
#214 of 221 Re: 2006 intermittent fuel problem? [dddaddio]
Jan 02, 2013 (3:06 pm)
Yes you can disable it with a "G.M. TECH2" (Diagnostic Scanner Tool).
Oh! those good ol' days are gone forever...I remember when we could calibrate points we a match booklet cover and repair mostly anything ourselves. But now a days, electronics, computers...what's next?
#215 of 221 Re: 2006 intermittent fuel problem? [laserblue]
Jan 03, 2013 (5:22 am)
I don't think its the rev limiter 4K on tach unless its a 2.2 AND it has much lower redline ( I believe redline on my 2.4 is 6200 or 6500). I have had my MT version close to redline a couple times without rev limiter kicking in (although if I stayed there a bit, the light would come on suggested an upshift might be in order .
I think I might be looking at fuel filter or ignition thing as Mr Shiftright suggested.
#216 of 221 Re: 2006 intermittent fuel problem? [ray80]
Jan 03, 2013 (7:17 am)
Thanks for all the help folks. I went with my gut, decided to try the cheap route first. Put a bottle of HEET in the gas tank....problem solved. I just never experienced the almost rhythmic fire/not fire/fire symptom before, and that is what threw me. Thanks again.
#217 of 221 Re: 2006 intermittent fuel problem? [dddaddio]
Jan 03, 2013 (7:24 am)
Since the methyl alcohol worked to help the fuel flow, does that mean the fuel filter is partly clogged with stuff or with water that the Heet picked up and moved enough of to help for the time being. I'd suggest it's time to change the fuel filter. On the theory that there's stuff in the tank getting caught in the filter, I'd put in a Techron Fuel System Cleaner for 12 gallon tank after running the Heet out. Run that down and THEN change the fuel filter, so that gunk and water in the tank are thoroughly cleared out and won't get caught in the new fuel filter.
#218 of 221 Re: 2006 intermittent fuel problem? [imidazol97]
Jan 03, 2013 (7:33 am)
Hhmm Since the HEET appears to have worked I might wonder if there is some water in fuel , and with today's more closed systems how it got there, bad fuel perhaps? (Also can't go wrong with imidazol97's suggestions)
#219 of 221 Re: 2006 intermittent fuel problem? [ray80]
Jan 03, 2013 (7:54 am)
> how it got there
More than likely with the tank and contents being cold and then the atmosphere containing more moisture in warmer air. The system doesn't seal completely and must take in and out some air with moisture. Warmer moist air cools in the tank and moisture is dropped out. Or the tank is opened to put in gasoline on warmer days.
As for the Techron, I've used it since BMW recommended it back in the 90s for the system and injectors. Note there is an Injector Cleaner version that is cheaper, but I like the Fuel System Cleaner. Run tank down to as low as you like to get it, put in the Techron so it's concentrated in a few gallons as you put in the new fuel. That way it can dissolve gunk before it's diluted with the additional 7-10 gallons of fuel you put into the HHR tank of 12 gallons.
A radio car technician always recommends using premium of a name brand to do this with the Techron, for the additional additives in the premium fuel. I usually do that as well. He liked Chevron and Shell. Chevron's additive package is what the Techron is--it's a Chevron product. We dont' have Chevron in this area of the country anymore.
Dec 09, 2013 (9:41 am)
I have the usual brake shuttering issues with the HHR. Mine is a 2006 2LT. I am not going to discuss that issue here. This morning upon going to work I got a block away up a big hill and the REP message and CEL came on. First time ever. I managed to coast back home and called for a ride to work. It is 14 degrees here and my bf left very little gas in the car for me. I dont know what to do. I have not taken it to a dealership as I have no money and he will look at it when it warms up a little. Any ideas???
#221 of 221 Re: ERP & CEL [moodlymoo]
Dec 10, 2013 (5:39 am)
CEl could be any number of things. Some places such as autozone will run a scan to determine what codes come up. That would be first step. Was it running ok even with light on? Heat working ok?