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What to expect from the next model year Prius

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Re: electric [allcarsrcool] by pathstar1
Dec 31, 2006 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: allcarsrcool (Dec 31, 2006 7:01 am)

I hear via the Japaneze grapevine that it will not be called a Prius. It would have a different model name.
 
You can be sure that if it is practical, cool, and beneficial to the company, Toyota will make it. There is a small market currently for an EV. "Small market" refers to perhaps 100,000 sold over three years, rather than 3-4 times that.
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other electric possiblities by allcarsrcool
Jan 20, 2007 (5:49 pm)
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In a recent car magazine I read, most likely Motor Trend or Automobile they had a small article showing a mini that had electric motors where the brake rotors used to be. They each produced, if I remember correctly, 75 or 100 hp, giving the mini somewhere near 400 hp. They also had regeneritive breaking.
 
Also on link title in the auto section there is a battery replacement station that would eliminate the long recharging sessions. The battery is simply pulled out of the bottom of the car and replaced with a battery that had been recharged from another car. You can find out more about this for yourself. This doesnt really relate to the prius though.
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Spypics of the new Prius by drjames
Jan 20, 2007 (6:38 pm)
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Sorry to chime in on this thread if this is old news, but could this be the next Prius?
 
http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoID/6070119.001/page/1/country/- jcf/toyota/spy-image-next-gen-toyota-prius
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Re: Spypics of the new Prius [drjames] by pathstar1
Jan 21, 2007 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: drjames (Jan 20, 2007 6:38 pm)

You'll note in the writeup it says "artists conception". A non-Toyota employed artist, with a good imagination. Does look cool though.
 
I'd be VERY surprised if anyone got a hint of what is going to happen. Car manufacturers guard their plans with great security. Usually we get "spy photos" a few months before release of the car, when the manufacturer is testing the final product. Even then, the car usually has camo. bras etc. attached. When you see those, you can guess it's probably a new model and not some magazine sellers idea to make money.
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Here's some info in the REAL next Generation Prius by larsb
Feb 22, 2007 (5:35 am)
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Hybrid X shows us it's bootay
 
It showcases a new hybrid system, too. Toyota is staying tight-lipped for now, but the car is likely to get a turbo­charged 1.8-litre 'lean-burn' engine - as we revealed in Issue 912 - which is capable of returning 100mpg. As well as being more economical, the next Prius will be faster and offer lower emissions. Toyota is also considering a plug-in version that can be connected to owners' mains electricity supply. When the Prius goes on sale in 2008, it will cost nearly £20,000.
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Re: Here's some info in the REAL next Generation Prius [larsb] by pathstar1
Feb 22, 2007 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 22, 2007 5:35 am)

Sure sure. It's a concept car! It says so in the article, but I've seen other postings about it on other forums. Most Toyota concept cars never make it to production (unlike some other manufacturers).
 
Also keep in mind the Prius is much more expensive in Britian than in the US (or Canada). So 20,000 pounds, about what, $35,000 US, is about what the current model is selling for.
 
Yet another article to sell magazine copies.
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Re: Here's some info in the REAL next Generation Prius [pathstar1] by larsb
Feb 22, 2007 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: pathstar1 (Feb 22, 2007 8:13 am)

Actually, it's more than a "concept" car. It's a preview of the next gen hybrid systems.
 
And the USA Prius does not sell for $35K - about $8-10K less than that.
 
Everyone who follows hybrids knows that Toyota is reducing the hybrid system by 50% and is shooting for a 94 MPG Prius for the next generation.
 
That's not a "concept" but is their stated goal for a production-level car.
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Re: Here's some info in the REAL next Generation Prius [larsb] by michael2003
Feb 23, 2007 (3:27 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 22, 2007 8:33 am)

What does 'reducing the hybrid system by 50%' mean?
 
Can we assume that the goal of 94 MPG means that it will most likely be a plug-in?
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Re: Here's some info in the REAL next Generation Prius [michael2003] by larsb
Feb 23, 2007 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: michael2003 (Feb 23, 2007 3:27 am)

"reducing the hybrid system by 50%" means just that - making the actual physical mechanical and electrical components 50% smaller in size. Having them take up less room in the car, add less weight, and have fewer components doing the job.
 
They have not confirmed that the 94 MPG will be done with plug-in technology, but that's as good a guess as any I suppose.
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Toyota CEO: Li-ion batteries for 2009 Prius! by gtoskyline
Feb 24, 2007 (4:34 pm)
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This is BIG!
 
Will Toyota's next generation of hybrids, which are expected in late 2008 or early 2009, focus on fuel economy or performance?
When we shifted from the first generation to the second generation hybrid we enhanced substantially performance in many different aspects. On top of that, we reduced both the cost and size by half. We are currently working on the third generation hybrid, which will also have a much higher performance and good mileage per gallon. On top of that we are now aiming at reducing, by half, both size and cost of the third generation hybrid system. We are not yet at the stage where we can disclose data relating to performance or fuel consumption.
 
Will Toyota use Lithium-Ion batteries in the next generation hybrids?
We will change the battery from nickel hydride to the lithium battery, and therefore we would like to reduce the size of the motors and inverters by half, so the overall size of the hybrid system can be reduced by half.
 
There's been a lot of discussion lately over how long it will take Li-Ions that are safe and durable for autos. Will the batteries be ready in time?
Yes, I believe we can develop this battery in time. Occasionally I visit the site where the development is going on to see the trial model.
 
But were you worried by Sony's problems last year when Li-Ions in laptops were reportedly catching fire?
Of course, we're experimenting on the problem that Sony encountered last year. We are making sure that the problem can be avoided. Automobiles are used in different conditions. For example, cars are used in temperatures from -20 degrees Celsius to 40 degrees Celsius and are constantly exposed to high vibrations. It's extremely difficult to build those systems for automobiles compared with cell phones which are used in relatively stable environments. These difficulties must be reflected in the design.
 
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