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#45 of 311 Re: Other engines for a Prius body [allcarsrcool]
Dec 18, 2006 (9:31 am)
so you did read the article, so if i am wrong about the price, what is the actual price of the kit added to a new prius, i believe it would make the prius over $40000.
This a faulty conclusion. The reason the price is $10000 extra is because it's a one of a kind aftermarket kit. It's not an OEM option manufactured right into the vehicle.
To put this to rest if the next Prius does have a plugin capability and the price is $40000. It won't sell. It won't happen though because Toyota wouldn't do such a ridiculous thing.
I am aware of the steering recall. I had it done on my 2005 Prius. It took less than 15 min to add a reinforcement. It was done during a normal oil change and it cost nothing and no inconvenience. To me it is a non-issue. Move on. It's over.
OK the old EPA values didn't reflect how people drive and the Prius numbers are too high, so what. The actual results you show that the Prius and the Golf are about equal, which is what I've been saying all along. There is no advantage to one or the other - except that diesels can't be sold in 5 of the most populous states until 2009 at the earliest.
The hybrid Camry is in a different class than the Golf, compare it to the Passat diesel.
New diesels may be better as you state. It remains to be seen. If they can't pass all the states emissions testing - at an economical price then it's the same situation as now.
#46 of 311 THANK YOU FOR SEEING MY POINT, FINALLY
Dec 18, 2006 (4:18 pm)
Though they may be equal, but but if you notice the user average is above EPA estimates, the same can not be said for the prius. And i added the camry to show the another one of Toyota's hybrids.
If people were told they would have to drive like extemely slow grandparents to get the EPA milage estimates, how many people would change their driving style to get those estimates or is driving a prius merely a way to silently sneer I'M ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY & YOU AREN'T?
#47 of 311 Re: THANK YOU FOR SEEING MY POINT, FINALLY [allcarsrcool]
Dec 19, 2006 (5:27 am)
Please let me know the relevance of this to the 2009 Prius.
Thanks in advance.
#48 of 311 Re: THANK YOU FOR SEEING MY POINT, FINALLY [allcarsrcool]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Dec 19, 2006 (9:37 am)
This line of conversation is WAY off-topic, and posts that are a continuation of that debate will be removed without notice.
#49 of 311 Re: Other engines for a Prius body [allcarsrcool]
Dec 20, 2006 (7:05 am)
The battery technology is still advancing. Altairnano has greatly increased the number of recharges their battery can withstand, and I believe that there is a Japanese company that has also made great strides in increasing the number of recharges. Of course, if EEStor ever comes out with their patented solution, I believe we will have the potential to completely eliminate the need to have a hybrid.
Dec 31, 2006 (7:01 am)
on www.techeblog.com the show in their auto section an all electric car that can recharge in ten minutes or overnight from a regular house outlet. Is it possible that the next prius could offer this technology for maybe an all electric version of the prius, or if not the prius an all electric car offered by toyota?
#51 of 311 Re: electric [allcarsrcool]
Dec 31, 2006 (9:16 am)
I hear via the Japaneze grapevine that it will not be called a Prius. It would have a different model name.
You can be sure that if it is practical, cool, and beneficial to the company, Toyota will make it. There is a small market currently for an EV. "Small market" refers to perhaps 100,000 sold over three years, rather than 3-4 times that.
#52 of 311 other electric possiblities
Jan 20, 2007 (5:49 pm)
In a recent car magazine I read, most likely Motor Trend or Automobile they had a small article showing a mini that had electric motors where the brake rotors used to be. They each produced, if I remember correctly, 75 or 100 hp, giving the mini somewhere near 400 hp. They also had regeneritive breaking.
Also on link title in the auto section there is a battery replacement station that would eliminate the long recharging sessions. The battery is simply pulled out of the bottom of the car and replaced with a battery that had been recharged from another car. You can find out more about this for yourself. This doesnt really relate to the prius though.
#54 of 311 Re: Spypics of the new Prius [drjames]
Jan 21, 2007 (8:50 am)
You'll note in the writeup it says "artists conception". A non-Toyota employed artist, with a good imagination. Does look cool though.
I'd be VERY surprised if anyone got a hint of what is going to happen. Car manufacturers guard their plans with great security. Usually we get "spy photos" a few months before release of the car, when the manufacturer is testing the final product. Even then, the car usually has camo. bras etc. attached. When you see those, you can guess it's probably a new model and not some magazine sellers idea to make money.