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What to expect from the next model year Prius

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#237 of 311
Waiting? Yes But... by tiff_c
Jul 26, 2008 (12:37 pm)
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I'm also very interested in the new Honda Hybrid. I bought my current Civic over the Prius because of the uncomfortable and barely adjustable seats in the Prius.
Does the Honda Hybrid have it's own forum yet?
I will consider the new 2010 MY Prius when it comes out but no question I will compare it to all the other cars hybrid and otherwise that are available at that time.
Toyota has ticked people off with minimum $1,000 deposits for waiting lists. Dealers have a right but when they have plenty of cars people will remember how they were treated, no matter the brand.
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Re: Waiting? Yes But... [tiff_c] by kdhspyder
Jul 26, 2008 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Jul 26, 2008 12:37 pm)

Huh?
 
$500 - $1500 deposits have been de rigueur on specially-ordered vehicles ever since I began in this business. Since you don't have one and presumably are not interested in a current one I find it curious that you'd make such an issue of it based on what are second-hand reports at best.
 
BTW this concerns not only the current Prius but the current Corolla, last year's Tundra when it debuted, the 07 Camry before that, the 04-06 Prius' before that, the 04 Sienna before that. It was also de rigueur on the SSR's when they first arrived, the new Corvettes, the first Silverado's, the Hybrid Tahoe's, the first of the new Civics,etc, etc, etc.
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Re: Waiting? Yes But... [kdhspyder] by tiff_c
Jul 27, 2008 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 26, 2008 3:12 pm)

$500 - $1500 deposits have been de rigueur on specially-ordered vehicles ever since I began in this business. Since you don't have one and presumably are not interested in a current one I find it curious that you'd make such an issue of it based on what are second-hand reports at best.
 
What's second hand? I went to the dealer, my wife wanted to get a Prius a couple of months ago. Not a chance, they need $1,000 down and then they Match an incoming car to your needs and sell it to you. The $1,000 merely gets you in line.
So that's NOT a special order and a few months before that I could have easily bought the car below invoice. Dealers tend to do things like this which is why on the top 10 list of untrustworthy professions Car dealers are near the top.
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Re: Waiting? Yes But... [tiff_c] by lotusfan
Jul 27, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Jul 27, 2008 6:18 am)

Where are you guys located that you have such short supply? I think I posted this before, but I get regular e-mails from dealers in the area (Northern Virginia) about Priuses they have to sell me -- no waiting lists, no deposits. Just a few days ago, a dealer said they had 19 Priuses in stock.
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Re: Waiting? Yes But... [tiff_c] by kdhspyder
Jul 27, 2008 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Jul 27, 2008 6:18 am)

Again what's the problem. This $500-$1500 deposit process it the same for all vehicles. Why does it irk you so much about the Prius? I currently have two Corolla's 'ordered' for delivery at the end of the month where the buyers wanted to place their orders at the end of June. We also have Yaris' on order with $500 deposits and Prius' on order with $1000 deposits.
 
Ahhh, in your 2nd paragraph you tipped your hand as to the real reason for your dissatisfaction. You missed out on buying in the early part of the year when there was plenty of supply and Prius' were being sold for a discount off MSRP. Then fuel went to $3.50 and then above $4.00 and even up to $5.00 and the entire population of NA went to its local Toyota strore and said "I'll take a Prius now"...and then they were all gone. You were in this rush and you missed out on the discounts in the early part of the year. Timing is everything. Relax, it's just supply and demand and the market operating efficiently. The market is supplying those who are willing to pay a certain price and it's not supplying those who want a lower price.
 
At some time in the future it will balance out again....assuming fuel doesn't get stupid.
 
And yes dealers do these things. It's called Capitalism. It's called a market-based economy. It's not at all questionable. Simply put you weren't quick enough this year and you lost out on the better buy. It happens every day all across the world.
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Re: Waiting? Yes But... [lotusfan] by tiff_c
Jul 27, 2008 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: lotusfan (Jul 27, 2008 8:35 am)

Where are you guys located that you have such short supply? I think I posted this before, but I get regular e-mails from dealers in the area (Northern Virginia) about Priuses they have to sell me -- no waiting lists, no deposits. Just a few days ago, a dealer said they had 19 Priuses in stock.
 
We are up in New Hampshire and they are all sold out and claim 6 months before they get any new stock in even if you are on their waiting list.
Every other car you see up here lately is a Prius. It's like the Ford Pinto/VW Bug of the new Millennium. I can't drive anywhere up here without seeing half a dozen of them.
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Re: Waiting? Yes But... [lotusfan] by kdhspyder
Jul 27, 2008 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: lotusfan (Jul 27, 2008 8:35 am)

Careful of the wording.
 
His email might have said 'available' not 'in stock'. It's highly unlikely that any dealer in the US has any 'in stock' except a few isolated ones where an 'orderer' might have backed out, certainly not in NoVa. Laurel Toyota CARMAX is the largest Toyota dealer on the EC and I believe it's No 2 in the country.
http://www.carmax.com/enUS/locations/Maryland-Both-Laurel-Toyota-7806.html
It has ZERO Prius' new or used in stock.
 
Now some stores may have 20 or more 2008s in stock right now today.....but these are all fleet turn-ins from Hertz or Enterprise or off-lease vehicles, all purchased at auction. For example our Richmond store had 27 of these 10 days ago.
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Re: Waiting? Yes But... [tiff_c] by kdhspyder
Jul 27, 2008 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Jul 27, 2008 12:27 pm)

Just as a point of reference the higher population areas are getting more. We've had 70 new units available to us from July 15th through Aug 10th. All of them found owners well before they arrived. Every one of them was fixed with a $500-$1000 deposit and was sold at MSRP.
 
There are roughly another 10+ buyers who are waiting for a specific package/color/interior so they've just continued to bump themselves down the list until their specific combo arrives.
 
OTOH a goodly number of buyers have had to wait less than 3 weeks. But again this is just a characteristic of supply and demand. The biggest supply goes to where the biggest demand is.
#245 of 311
Toyota announced Pricing on 2009 model Prius by toyotaken
Jul 28, 2008 (8:33 am)
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As per a news article that I had forwarded to me this morning, Toyota announced that there will be an increase in MSRP of $500 on the 2009 Prius vs. the 2008 models. There was no information leading to a re-design for the 2009 model, so it appears that they will be holding off on the re-design for the 2010 model at this point.
 
Ken
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Re: Waiting? Yes But... [kdhspyder] by lotusfan
Jul 28, 2008 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 27, 2008 12:33 pm)

You wrote, "His email might have said 'available' not 'in stock'."
 
The e-mails I get definitely say "in stock".

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