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What to expect from the next model year Prius

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Re: seats [orangelebaron] by kdhspyder
May 21, 2008 (4:03 am)
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Replying to: orangelebaron (May 20, 2008 5:45 pm)

Well speaking of shortcomings...
 
The EPA numbers are out for the Jetta Diesel ...
.. it's 2nd rate as compared to the Prius and HCH,
.. plus diesel is significantly more expensive than gas,
.. plus the pricing is likely to be at or above the hybrid models
.. plus it's a VW with all of VW's baggage to drag around.
 
But it probably drives better ( ), woo hoo.
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Re: seats [orangelebaron] by gagrice
May 21, 2008 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: orangelebaron (May 20, 2008 5:45 pm)

I'm not allowed to point out the shortcomings of the Prius?
 
I thought you were spot on. All common complaints from owners. Handling in the wind is a biggie for me. I see them crawling along at 45 MPH to keep them on the highway when the wind blows across Interstate 8 here in San Diego. They seem to be a good city runabout, though kind of expensive.
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Re: seats [gagrice] by bigmclargehuge
May 21, 2008 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 21, 2008 7:39 am)

Not to mention the safety concerns of low-rolling resistance tires.
 
I've recently seen 2 Prii lose control on straight, flat, 4-lane highways in the rain at the speed limit and walled it into a concrete barrier. No other cars seemed to mind the invisible forcefield that causes Prii to spontaneously hydroplane.
 
I'd never stick my family in a car with low-rolling resistance tires. Wet, dry or cold. You can't put a price on safety.
 
If you choose to drive alone in a Prius because money is more important than health and safety, so be it. But do your loved ones a favor and keep the Outback or buy a Jetta.
 
Accident avoidance is improved with better handling and tires. 'Safe happens' in a Jetta, but not in a Prius from what I've seen.
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Re: seats [kdhspyder] by gagrice
May 21, 2008 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (May 21, 2008 4:03 am)

Sounds to me like damage control...
 
Don't worry. People that buy Prius are not worried about how the vehicle handles. I don't even see them being cross shopped by VW buyers. Look out if they ever bring the Rabbit TDI to the USA. Or the One series BMW diesel. Then the Prius will have some good competition at the pump. Until then you got a captive market, courtesy of the EPA and CARB.
 
PS
I forgot the Accord diesel that was just tested and got 53 MPG highway.
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Re: seats [bigmclargehuge] by sharon22
May 21, 2008 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (May 21, 2008 7:50 am)

Went on the Informed for Life site and they indicate the '05 Subaru Outback has an overall score of 92 and the '08 Prius an overall score of 79.1. The lower score indicates the vehicle would be safer in their estimation. Can you clarify why they are saying the Prius is safer than an Outback? I have an Outback, but am on the waiting list for a Prius.
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Re: seats [sharon22] by bigmclargehuge
May 21, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: sharon22 (May 21, 2008 8:06 am)

Clearly because either they can't do math or because you are quoting the numbers wrong. Or they used some useless statistics.
 
Because they clearly are not using the NHTSA 4-star frontal crash rating to say that the Prius is safer than the 5-star Subaru Outback. You know, Subaru, the only company in which every model has been an IIHS Top Safety Pick.
 
And if you've bought that the Prius is safer than the Outback, I have some ocean property in Arizona I'll sell you at a discount. Does the Prius still have Drum Brakes in the rear?
 
Slippery tires, midevil brakes, gets loose in crosswinds because of bad aerodynamics. And a lower safety rating from the reputable source, NHTSA.
 
I was referring specifically to you for keeping the Outback. If you think fuel is more important than family, you go right ahead and pick up the Prius. Thanks for playing.
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Re: seats [sharon22] by bigmclargehuge
May 21, 2008 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: sharon22 (May 21, 2008 8:06 am)

Yup I just checked that site and those number are arbitrary. But you were clearly too enamoured with the Prius to see that. Is this your website?
 
The Prius gets 4-stars for the front, but they get the same points as the Outback's 5-stars.
 
For side impact, the Prius' 4.5 stars gets less points than the Outback's 5-stars.
 
What the heck? Shouldn't the Prius have scored higher (worse) in both cases?
 
They scored the same 4-stars for rollover rating, but again the Prius gets fewer points. What the heck?
 
Any more rubbish sites that 'prove' the Prius is safer? Because logic dictates otherwise.
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Re: seats [bigmclargehuge] by kdhspyder
May 21, 2008 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (May 21, 2008 7:50 am)

God doesn't anyone read the specs before posting... Low Rolling Resistance Tires... LMAO!!
 
Golly Gee you're only 6-1/2 years out of date!!!!! You do realize that since the Gen2 came out there are no such thing as LRRT's on any of the OEMs. How can you make a post like that based on completely inaccurate data? Pretty soon it will be 2004 and you can bring yourself up to date.
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Re: seats [kdhspyder] by stevedebi
May 21, 2008 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (May 21, 2008 10:52 am)

"You do realize that since the Gen2 came out there are no such thing as LRRT's on any of the OEMs."
 
I'm following this thread with interest. If the tires are not LLRT, then would it not be WORSE for the Prius, since there must be some other explanation why there have been reports of crosswind handling?
 
The LLRT would be easily fixed...

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