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What to expect from the next model year Prius

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Re: Fast Company [toyolla2] by wwest
Nov 01, 2007 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: toyolla2 (Oct 31, 2007 6:57 pm)

"unfortunately..."
 
The bottom end torque could be limited just as easily as top speed, not that TC wouldn't already, but only after the "fact". Perhaps a "snow" mode..??
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Re: Fast Company [toyolla2] by wwest
Nov 01, 2007 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: toyolla2 (Oct 31, 2007 6:57 pm)

"..Bonneville.."
 
I hope, like to think, they added some downforce "effects" and wider tread tires for that high speed run.
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Re: Rumours [hybridlover1] by stevegold
Nov 09, 2007 (5:35 am)
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That's 90 miles per Imperial gallon, somewhat better than 2004-2008. The batteries will remain Lead/Acid not Li-on as originally planned.
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About the new Prius by stevegold
Nov 09, 2007 (5:42 am)
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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/212241/prius_estate_on_way.htm- l
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Re: About the new Prius [stevegold] by gagrice
Nov 09, 2007 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: stevegold (Nov 09, 2007 5:42 am)

Could this be true? Using Lead Acid instead of NiMH batteries as in the current Prius?
 
This is set to be powered by a 1.6-litre turbo engine, mated to a more efficient hybrid system. Previously, Toyota has hinted it would use lithium-ion batteries to create a vehicle capable of returning up to 100mpg.
However, technical challenges in the development of the new cells has forced bosses to abandon this plan, and instead it will use less advanced lead acid cells.
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Re: About the new Prius [gagrice] by kdhspyder
Nov 09, 2007 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 09, 2007 7:02 am)

No that's a typo.. The current and the next Gen will still have NiMH batteries. I'd expect the new Prius to achieve about 55 -60 mpg Combined under the new 2008 regulations. That's a 20% increase in Average FE.
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Re: About the new Prius [kdhspyder] by pathstar1
Nov 09, 2007 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 09, 2007 7:44 am)

I'd say that's an indicator of the accuracy of the "news item". Yet more speculation from a bogus auto mag trying to sell copies.
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Re: About the new Prius [gagrice] by wwest
Nov 09, 2007 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 09, 2007 7:02 am)

"..1.6-litre turbo engine..."
 
NOT...!!
 
There is just barely enough HEAT level left in the exhaust of an atkinson engine to fire off the catalyst to operating temperature. Certainly NOT enough to "power" a turbo.
 
On the other hand a fully variable speed/boost Supercharger might be an ideal way to increase the power of a 1.6L engine up to the level "required". Adding another variable frequency inverter to power a 2-3 HP AC motor to drive the SC would be a POC. Even better, driving the SC via a combination of the ICE and an AC motor via a form of the e-CVT would be even better.
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FAST COMPANY II by toyolla2
Nov 09, 2007 (5:13 pm)
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We all know that Toyota, as with other auto companies, is on this track of more power with succeeding models whether the consumer needs it or not. With the Prius the most obvious upgrade is to let the 1NZ-FXE engine run at 6000rpm which should up the power from 76Hp to something around 90Hp with only incremental increases in the electrical equipment. Of course the engine may not be quite so clean at this level but does the DOT testing actually require the engine to touch maximum output over its standard driving cycle, does anybody know ?
I have brought this up before that the amount of time that full power is ever used is comparitively small, perhaps the standard should be that when cruising at top speed. But could you even fail a vehicle on its pollution count at 100mph since that condition is beyond posted limits permitted in any state ?
T2

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