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Nissan Versa ABS - availability and package questions

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Re: ABS---BS. [bendupre] by sngwrtr
Aug 19, 2006 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: bendupre (Aug 18, 2006 4:55 am)

Funny thing is... most of the cars that wind up in the ditches are SUVs. People buy them cause they think they're great in the snow.
 
Funny, I thought those people only lived in Boston! I guess they are all over the place. We also see a certain amount of SUV's on their side in the ditches. With their higher center of gravity, they can roll if the conditions are right. Icy roads in New England do occur, but what is more common are those snow storms that start at 4 in the morning or 2 in the afternoon on a workday. By the time rush hour comes it's just hard to keep the roads clear. That is when ABS is worth it weight in gold.
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Re: ABS---BS. [bendupre] by flightnurse
Aug 19, 2006 (3:49 pm)
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Replying to: bendupre (Aug 18, 2006 4:55 am)

Ben, please reread my first post regarding ABS and ICE...
 
ABS is USELESS if there is nothing the tires can grip on, if the car is on ICE, how are the tires going to 'steer' you out of a accident ?
 
Regarding ice in PHX, its snows here but doesn't stick, but up in flagstaff (elevation 7200') they get plenty of snow and ICE. Since I'm a flightNurse, I'm up in that area flying serious injuried patients to trauma hospitals in the Valley. During the winter months, you would be suprised the accidents I see. Talking to the DSP (highway patrol) speed and ICE are what happens.
 
So Ben, let me ask you this..... If you are traveling on a highway and you slam your brakes on, and the car keeps going and doesn't slow down because you are ICE, how are you going to steer yourself out of the accident ? Yes you have ABS on your car ?
 
Tony
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ABS and SNOW by flightnurse
Aug 19, 2006 (3:50 pm)
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There is a difference between SNOW and ICE when talking about ABS....
 
Tony
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Re: ABS---BS. [flightnurse] by bendupre
Aug 19, 2006 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: flightnurse (Aug 19, 2006 3:49 pm)

Maybe you've got to try it to beleive it. Lots of people will tell you the technology has saved their butts.
 
I've been living in Iowa for 10 years and I had to learn to drive all over again in the winters here. The first winter I put my Aerostar in the ditch twice. That was the last RWD car I will ever own.
 
My Sable had antilocks and I tried them out a few times on the ice to "teach" myself what to expect if I ever got in a close scrape and needed them.
 
The mechanics are such that as long as the wheel is rolling, you can steer the vehicle. If the wheels lock, you will slide. Antilock brakes primarily save drivers from themselves.
 
Sure if you're on glare ice and you "throw" the wheel, you will spin out, so there's a threshold even on an icy road where you can control a vehicle. Problem is no one respects it. People drive too fast thinking 4WD and antilock brakes make them immune to snow and ice.
 
Ben
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I am another one from Arizona by iluvmysephia1
Aug 19, 2006 (10:31 pm)
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who is even further south towards the border than flightnurse(Willcox). I moved here from Pocatello, ID, which is snowbound for around six months out of the year. I asked the locals down here if it snows and, like flightnurse, they replied "it snows but it doesn't stick."
 
I remember my first accident. I was driving my Dad's '66 VW Fastback and it started snowing(I grew up in the Seattle area). The Fastback had a 3-speed tranny and I was attempting to show off for my friend who was riding with me(we were 16 years old). There was around 2 inches of snow and I pulled into a furniture store's parking lot. I remember saying "check this out!" I accelerated hard but made the mistake of slamming on my brakes when I realized we were sliding out of control. BAM! We hit a large landscaping boulder straight on. The '66 VW FB was toast in the front end.
 
Dad had it repaired, it was salvageable, but I felt bad about it. I didn't have to reimburse him but I learned a lot from that accident. Never again would I punch it in the snow and ice.
 
Incidentally, my '01 Kia Sportage 4x4 propelled me out of several slippery stuck spots last winter. The 4WD just worked great to grip on the ice and snow and get me out of bad predicaments. Hard to want to trade the Sportsman in when it's helped me out so many times. It's a keeper!
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Re: ABS---BS. [bendupre] by flightnurse
Aug 20, 2006 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: bendupre (Aug 19, 2006 6:34 pm)

Ben we agree that people take 4WD and ABS as the save all and don't drive reasonable when road condition get bad...
 
Tony
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First ABS "sighting" by rcinmd
Aug 25, 2006 (5:34 am)
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While checking dealer inventories, I found one Versa S listed as having ABS, so finally they are hitting dealerships.
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Got a Versa sans ABS by hevydevyhead
Aug 27, 2006 (6:14 pm)
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I was waiting for an ABS model but after I was told that it could be middle or end of September before an ABS CVT SL is available, I caved and got a non-ABS model. My wife is starting a career as a real estate agent and we absolutely have to get a second car now. It was either a non-ABS Versa or a Sentra.
 
We will just drive a bit slower and love the car we're driving in.
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Can't get a Versa SL with or w/o ABS! by 74apollo
Oct 10, 2006 (6:57 am)
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I've had a Versa SL with ABS on order for two months. Last week the dealer refunded my deposit and pulled my order saying Nissan wasn't building the SL right now period. They had no idea when they would get any in. I called Nissan's consumer hot line and they didn't have any info either. This is a heck of a way to market a car unless Nissan wants people to buy another make.
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Re: ABS---BS. [bendupre] by danzigdan
Oct 10, 2006 (3:44 pm)
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Replying to: bendupre (Aug 19, 2006 6:34 pm)

IMHO, you can make a lot of arguments for and against ABS. It's amazing on dry pavement, clearly. It's saved me on snow and ice too. But, it has scared me straight on snow and ice too. Sure, you can steer...but stop? Not really!
 
The best idea is to cut your speed by 1/3 or 1/2 if possible in really bad weather.

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