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Nissan Versa ABS - availability and package questions

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Re: ABS on the 28th [hevydevyhead] by flightnurse
Aug 16, 2006 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: hevydevyhead (Aug 16, 2006 10:34 am)

You are correct they didn't order it for you, but the Nissan Dealer orders cars from Nissan each Quarter, they tell them color combo, packages and such. So they know the color, just funn they wont tell you the color. I have the Onxy blue, which is very pretty, Im not a fan of thier "sky" blue color..
 
Tony
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Re: ABS on the 28th [flightnurse] by hevydevyhead
Aug 16, 2006 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: flightnurse (Aug 16, 2006 12:47 pm)

Interesting.
 
From what my dealer led me to believe, at this point Nissan is just shipping what they can ship. I was told that for the foreseeable future, no Nissan dealers could really pick and choose what they got.
 
Each dealer was promised one base model, one fully loaded ABS model and the rest were allocated randomly to the different dealers?
 
I'm just working on what I was told. This dealer got about 5 in towards the beginning of July and hasn't received any since.
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Re: ABS on the 28th [hevydevyhead] by backy
Aug 16, 2006 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: hevydevyhead (Aug 16, 2006 1:20 pm)

A local dealer's sales manager told me that initially, they got what they were shipped, but as of this month they were able to put in specific orders.
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Re: ABS on the 28th [hevydevyhead] by bendupre
Aug 16, 2006 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: hevydevyhead (Aug 16, 2006 1:20 pm)

He didn't mislead you. That's about the size of it right now. They aren't exactly flooding the market. It may be strategy to release slowly like this to pump up hype, but I doubt it. Hopefuly the reason the cars are coming out slowly is that NISSAN is ramping up production at a measured pace to keep quality under control in the Mexican factory. That's an educated guess. In manufacturing it's typical to ramp up a production line. I can't imagine a line starting one day at full capacity. That would be a scarry situation vis-a-vis quality.
 
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Re: ABS on the 28th [bendupre] by sngwrtr
Aug 16, 2006 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: bendupre (Aug 16, 2006 5:51 pm)

In mid July I placed an order for a black SL CVT with floor mats, splash guards and ABS. It's not loaded but the dealer told me he had to pull some strings to get the order in (maybe becasue it's not loaded?). I am supposed to be getting it in September.
 
Another theory about ABS and safety in general - An overall review of new cars in a Boston paper several months ago said that American will generally not pay extra for safety features when they are optional (ABS, curtain airbags on some Toyotas, etc). Don't know if I believe that. Maybe Nissan under estimated how many people would want ABS
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Re: ABS on the 28th [sngwrtr] by bendupre
Aug 16, 2006 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: sngwrtr (Aug 16, 2006 6:38 pm)

The dealers can trade inventory in the pipeline with other dealers. When he "pulled some strings" he traded another car they had on their list. My dealer in Iowa had only their two obligatory versas. I bought the SL literally as it rolled off the truck. Mine is magnetic gray, not my fav but better than "fresh powder". When I went back a week later to have the Sirius radio unit installed, there was a "red alert" SL with CVT sitting there. He said they traded it with another dealer who wanted a pickup they had. I told himI wanted to trade my magnetic gray for the red alert!
 
Actually the gray is not bad. Our brand new Quest is brilliant silver, so the two cars are almost twins sitting in our driveway.
 
Ben
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Re: ABS on the 28th [bendupre] by sngwrtr
Aug 17, 2006 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: bendupre (Aug 16, 2006 6:53 pm)

Actually that is exactly what he said he did by pulling strings - swapped out in the pipeline..
I like the gray, it was my second choice. I won't own another red car (and my girlfriend would shoot me if I bought one.) The last red car I owned, an early 90's Plymouth Colt, was hit about 5 times. It met it's demise by being totalled by a jack knifing tractor trailer during high speed rush hour traffic. I walked away because all of the damage was done to the passenger side. That car attracted damage. With 300 miles on it, a pipe flew out of a truck in front of me and hit the side of the car. I used to get rear ended regularly at toll booths. No more red cars for me. Although I must admit Red Alert is a nice color.
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Re: ABS on the 28th [sngwrtr] by bendupre
Aug 17, 2006 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: sngwrtr (Aug 17, 2006 9:15 am)

Although I must admit Red Alert is a nice color.
 
touch wood
 
Remember Used Cars, the movie from about 1978? I vageuly recall someone wouldn't drive a red car, but it's been too many years I don't remember why.
 
Ben
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Re: ABS---BS. [perna] by flightnurse
Aug 17, 2006 (8:26 pm)
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Replying to: perna (Jul 27, 2006 9:06 am)

the biggest problem is once the road has ICE on it, ABS wont save you. Since there is nothing for the tires to grab to. Ask Csaba Csere the editor of Car and Driver, he and his wife were in a very bad car accident back in the late 80's in a car with ABS. After he recovered from the car accident, he wrote this incredible article regarding ABS...
 
Remember the concept of ABS is this, to slow the car down with traction, and on ICE there is none...
 
Tony
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Re: ABS---BS. [flightnurse] by bendupre
Aug 18, 2006 (4:55 am)
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Replying to: flightnurse (Aug 17, 2006 8:26 pm)

How much ICE do you get down in Phoenix?
 
Up where it snows, ABS is definitely helpful. Any Canuck will testify to that. In fact, I bet that's where all the ABS cars are going.
 
The point of ABS is to keep the wheels from locking up so you can steer out of the accident. Steering stops when the wheels lock. It's not going to prevent every accident. A driver still has to drive withing the limits of road conditions and his/her abilities.
 
Up here in Iowa, every time we have a bad snow, the ditches fill up with cars and trucks. People just driving too fast for the icy roads. Funny thing is... most of the cars that wind up in the ditches are SUVs. People buy them cause they think they're great in the snow. Then they think they can just drive through anything and guess what, an SUV can't recover from a skid on ice at 60 MPH, 50MPH or even 40MPH. It doesn't matter what you drive, you just have to slow down.
 
ABS will do absolutely nothing to help a driver recover from a skid either BTW, but it can help avoid one. When you're driving down the street and a car backs out of a driveway in front of you, you can brake and steer. Try it without ABS and instant skid.
 
Ben

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