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Hatchbacks Nissan Versa Nissan Versa ABS - availability and package questions
81 messages, Last post on Jan 26, 2008 at 12:54 PM
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Please keep in mind that the Versa is a relatively light car compared to other sedans and especially to SUVs. ABS definitely becomes more important as a vehicle becomes heavier. It is very easy to allow for longer stopping distances that occur in wet/slick conditions. Go Slower and leave a greater following distance. I know that "unexpected" things can happen, someone cuts you off for instance. However that isn't really unexpected. You should always assume that the idiot in the lane next to you will swerve into your lane without warning. The law in NJ places absolute liability for rear end collisions on the striking vehicle. No matter what crazy thing happens in front of you, if you rear end someone in NJ you are liable. If you want to protect your family. Focus on your driving habits. ABS is just an example of Auto Makers stuffing expensive options down our throats to make the more profit for themselves. Nissan clearly concluded that if they charged $595 for ABS, no one would buy it. At $250 though its not profitable. Solution. Don't make many cars with it. Mark.
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Replying to: mschmal (Jul 12, 2006 6:50 am) I do. But I can't control everyone else's driving habits. And despite the best training/coaching, people (such as teenagers like mine) make mistakes. Safety features like airbags and ABS help mitigate those kinds of mistakes and behaviors by others that we can't control. Given that states like NJ place blame on the car that hits the rear in a rear-end collision, all the more reason to have aids like ABS to help avoid those kinds of collisions. If Nissan can't make a profit on ABS for $250, they should charge more, then let the market decide how popular the feature is, rather than artificially limiting production because they can't make a profit. What has happened is that Nissan has decided to stuff the limited availability of ABS down our throats rather than letting buyers decide for themselves. A dumb business decision, IMO. |
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I wonder what your experience has been on this - my wife and I have found it impossible to find a Versa with the ABS option. We want an SL, and so far, in our area, none of the dealers have any, either in the inventory or on the "in transit" list, that comes with the ABS option. We live in a snowy area, so the ABS is mandatory. I'm very surprised that Nissan not only did not make the ABS a standard piece, but is not making ABS-equipped Versas readily available. It's such a low cost and necessary option in many parts of the U.S. that I don't believe that dealers (esp. in my area) would not want to order their vehicles with it. What have you guys seen out there?
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Replying to: jacksan1 (Jul 15, 2006 3:25 am) Tony 
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I am from Canada and the ABS package comes STANDARD with the widely available SL model. (Also, this ABS package can be added as an option with the base S model.) But then again, in Canada we cannot get a Versa with the Intelligent Key technology...just to mention a few of the many differences between the Canada Versa and US Versa.
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Replying to: purpleversa (Jul 16, 2006 11:43 am) |
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Replying to: mschmal (Jul 11, 2006 2:16 pm) ABS is standard in all cars sold in Europe, even the cheapest ones. ESP is more the thing coming around there. and the studies don't take in account how the accident happened. Traditionally in old days more powerful cars had ABS, maybe thay are driven by fast drivers, which explains more fatal accidents. i don't see there where it says that in a specific situation wiht the same car w/ and w/o ABS and same speeds etc. the ABS car was not better than the one w/o ABS. no reasonable person in 2006 makes a study like that. Only manufacturers that don't have ABS say ABS is not important (and the sales persons apaprently say that too  apparently that is what they consider safety,.... if you down the hill in ht esnow, you wish you had ABS. Drive that w/ ABS once and you never want to drive w/o ABS..
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Replying to: herrkaleu (Jul 21, 2006 4:14 am) In my line of work, I see accidents all the time, I hear people say, "Why didn't I stop faster, my car has ABS" my standard reply is, ABS doesn't make cars stop after just because if has ABS... All the car magaiznes have proven that cas without ABS can stop faster then cars that have ABS. Tony
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Replying to: flightnurse (Jul 21, 2006 9:43 pm) but with ABS and brake assist the average driver will stop sooner. Well, even if you push the brake as hard as you can, locking tires slide over the aspahalt. And under bad conditions (water, snow, ice) ABS definitely is better. Or do you say there is a conspiracy (governments all over the world coopareate with the eveil car manufacturers) to make you spend money on ABS to make the car less safe? To counteract overpopulation, or so? Like when they never went to the moon  I suppose manufacturers that don't have ABS standard usually have worse brakes anyway, so their few ABS cars are not much better. But manufacturers that have ABS standard, usually have better brakes an brake assist (because then you actually can use all brake force that you can achieve). with ABS it makes big sense to install brake assist and powerful disc-brakes an all 4 wheels. I havn't seen a serious car magazin that claimed that ABS is worse than a car w/o ABS. And technology developped and improved. As electronics got faster and cheaper there is more room to adjust settings. Maybe the American companies didn't improve ABS, because they still sell the very same cars they sold 20 years ago with a new chassis, but car manufactureres that sell cars in more countries than just the US had to and did improve ABS significantly. If there is a manufacturer that hasn't improved it since the 1990s, then don't buy from them. Even ESP, which is way newer than ABS, already exists in 2nd and 3rd generations and improved over the old ones. The same for ABS. ABS went from mechanical systems, to electric-mechanical to electric,... and those always improved. If ABS is still bad, than show me a study from this millenium, not from the last one.
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Replying to: herrkaleu (Jul 22, 2006 8:40 am) |
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