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Nissan Versa ABS - availability and package questions

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Re: ABS? [pardema] by flightnurse
Jul 11, 2006 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: pardema (Jul 11, 2006 7:08 am)

As I posted before, the versa was just released, give it couple of weeks and I'm sure ABS package will show up..
 
Tony
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Thanks for the feedback Tony! by peteinmpls
Jul 11, 2006 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: flightnurse (Jul 11, 2006 10:36 am)

Tony,
 
From what I've seen thus far, you're the leading provider of first-hand knowledge among the initial Versa owners so keep up the good work! I'm very interested to see what your intial fuel economy numbers when you get to your first fill-up.
 
So far, what's been the reaction of people to the Versa when you're out and about?
 
Pete
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Re: Thanks for the feedback Tony! [peteinmpls] by flightnurse
Jul 12, 2006 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: peteinmpls (Jul 11, 2006 11:01 am)

Thanks for the kind words, so far the reactions have been very good, I have sold 2 of them to co-workers, since the car is much bigger inside then it looks.
 
Looks like today well be my day to fill up, So later on I'll post MPG..
 
Tony
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ABS Availability by peteinmpls
Jul 11, 2006 (12:22 pm)
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To me it makes little sense that ABS is so hard to come by in the initial model mix for this car. I know that some people still prefer not having it, but don't the vast majority of buyers want ABS now...if not expect it as standard equipment?
 
Also, the deal where you can't build a Versa SL with ABS if you include all the other options...that has to be a glitch in the configurator as others have pointed out. It obviously doesn't make sense that by including things like convenience, sunroof and sound upgrade that you'd have to delete ABS. It also runs counter to how the car has been equipped in most of the reviews thus far. But it's amazing to me that Nissan has let this slip. For anyone following this car via various discussion boards, everyone is pointing this out. You'd think Nissan would have had it corrected on their site within a few hours, not to mention it should have been picked up while testing the Versa page in the first place. (or maybe they've lost their minds at the 11th hour when putting together option packages??)
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Re: ABS Availability [peteinmpls] by flightnurse
Jul 12, 2006 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: peteinmpls (Jul 11, 2006 12:22 pm)

Well Nissan has other issues to fix first...
 
There is nothing in thier parts computers and will as Service computers for the Versa.... (this was as of yesterday)
 
NMAC (nissan fiancial) computers have none of the lease information loaded in thier computers either... (This was as of Monday) When I leased mine on Sat, everything had to be done by hand, THEN loaded into the computer..
 
One would think all of these things would have been loaded before the dealers got the cars... Its frustrating for all parties...
 
But in 3 car mag the test Versa was fully loaded, with ABS.
 
Tony
#27 of 81
ABS---BS. by mschmal
Jul 11, 2006 (2:16 pm)
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ABS an interesting option that most people have an opinion about that is not based in fact.
 
Every government study and IIHS study on ABS reaches the same conclusion regarding ABS. There is no benefit at all.
 
I know you don't believe me so feel free to follow these links:
http://www.iihs.org/news/1996/iihs_news_121096.pdf
http://www.iihs.org/sr/pdfs/sr3504.pdf see page 6
 
THATS CORRECT, the IIHS FOUND initally THAT ABS OWNERS ARE AT A HIGHER RISK OF BEING IN A FATAL CRASH THAN NON ABS OWNERS!
 
“Despite their impressive performance on the test track, there still is no evidence
that antilock brakes are producing overall safety benefits,” says Institute president
Brian O’Neill.
 
ABS cannot reduce your stopping distance on Dry Pavement!
 
ABS cannot compensate for Speeding.
 
ABS cannot compensate for Tailgating.
 
ABS cannot compensate for just plain BAD or AGGRESSIVE DRIVING
 
ABS' only advantage is to allow you to steer while pressing your brakes as hard as possible. Accordingly, if you are in a situation where you have to brake as hard as possible and still steer to avoid the accident, you were: a) probably speeding and/or b) probably tailgating.
 
Now will all this in mind, according to the order guide.
 
Nissan decided that ABS will be put on 5% of S and 10% of SL.
 
Mark.
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Re: ABS---BS. [mschmal] by backy
Jul 11, 2006 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: mschmal (Jul 11, 2006 2:16 pm)

That's too bad Nissan is limiting ABS so much on the Versa. I have experienced firsthand how it can reduce stopping distance and help maintain control of the car in wet/slippery conditions. That's good enough for me, and my family.
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Re: ABS---BS. [mschmal] by dakota29803
Jul 12, 2006 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: mschmal (Jul 11, 2006 2:16 pm)

Interesting comments by the IIHS, BUT: 1) My insurance company gives a discount if my car has ABS and 2) I wrecked my Dodge Dakota in a situation where I could not steer and brake adequately. I was going down a hill when the car in front of me stopped to make a left turn. It was raining hard and when I tried to stop, I hydroplaned. It was obvious to me that the only was to avoid hitting him was to take my foot off the brake and steer right. I missed him, but the shoulder was not very wide and I went over an embankment. I did not hit hard enough to set off the airbags, but apparently I bent the frame.
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ABS by hill7
Jul 11, 2006 (11:24 pm)
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So my question is: there is not one Versa with ABS at all? No one can even get that option for months to come? Is there anyone who has seen a Versa out there with ABS?
 
I say time to run to Scion and buy the XA.
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Re: ABS [hill7] by flightnurse
Jul 12, 2006 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: hill7 (Jul 11, 2006 11:24 pm)

The Xa is a good car, but it cant' compare to the Versa.
Most people rely on ABS to stop them in a shorter distance but that isn't what ABS is for, its to HELP you steer your way out of an accident. Since the wheels on a car with ABS well continue to rotate you can steer out of the way, but more people panic and just hold on to the wheel and hit the car in front of them.
 
Here in Phoenix, with temps between 107-112 (the past couple of days) the A/C in the Xa's and Xb's can't keep the cars cool enough, so far I haven't had that problems in my Versa.
 
The difference between a Xa and Versa is too great to list here. The better car is the Versa, for the same price as a Xa the Versa is bigger and newer Technology.
 
Tony

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