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#72 of 81 Re: Got a Versa sans ABS [hevydevyhead] by bobw3 Oct 11, 2006 (9:30 am)
Replying to: hevydevyhead (Aug 27, 2006 6:14 pm) Why were you down to a Sentra or Versa. If ABS was a requirement, there are a lot of other cars out there with ABS (Fit, Corolla, Kia, etc...).   I don't understand how someone can sacrifice the safety features because of mpg, styling, or some of the other more cosmetic features. I'm not sure your reasons for either wanting a Sentra or Versa, but I think that ABS is really imporant. Even if you do just slow down in bad weather, you can't always predict what will happen suddenly in front of you and then you'll rather have had the ABS versus the other features. Again, this is "you" in the generic sense of anyone making this sort of decision.
#73 of 81 Re: Got a Versa sans ABS [hevydevyhead] by bobw3 Oct 11, 2006 (9:33 am)
Replying to: hevydevyhead (Aug 27, 2006 6:14 pm) Why were you down to a Sentra or Versa. If ABS was a requirement, there are a lot of other cars out there with ABS (Fit, Corolla, Kia, etc...).   I don't understand how someone can sacrifice the safety features because of mpg, styling, or some of the other more cosmetic features. I'm not sure your reasons for either wanting a Sentra or Versa, but I think that ABS is really imporant. Even if you do just slow down in bad weather, you can't always predict what will happen suddenly in front of you and then you'll rather have had the ABS versus the other features, especially if this seemed such an important feature based on driving conditions. Again, this is "you" in the generic sense of anyone making this sort of decision.
#74 of 81 This is what CR says about Versa with/out ABS by jacksan1 Oct 11, 2006 (1:02 pm)
Here is a direct quote that I have taken off ConsumerReports.org.   GET THE ABS! I can't stress that enough. The importance of the ABS showed up in our tests of a non-ABS Versa 1.8S and a ABS-equipped 1.8SL.   This was written by Tom Mutchler who works for Consumer Reports.
#75 of 81 Re: ABS---BS. [dakota29803] by zebraox04 Sep 28, 2007 (6:05 am)
Replying to: dakota29803 (Jul 12, 2006 11:27 am) Interesting comments by the IIHS, BUT ...   mschmal's comments aren't really all that interesting. Nor should they be since it is a misreading/misinterpreting of the information. To say nothing of missing the point of what ABS is for.   It's not about braking, per se; and certainly it is not about changing driving behavior. It's about maintaining control in situations when wheels would otherwise lock up during braking.   The sited IIHS articles do not say ABS has no value. Instead, they say, along with many other things, that ABS may introduce a moral hazard, such that people (falsely) believe they can be less careful with ABS.   That is not a defect of ABS; nor does it say that ABS has no effect. It is merely a statement of human behavior.   Is ABS a wasted option? I don't think for people who want it. And maybe that is Nissan's thinking. That those who want it bad enough will have come to understand, appreciate and respect the technology and know how to properly use it.   Although, Nissan could make it easier to get. Replies to this message: daniknight (Sep 28, 2007 8:37 am)
#76 of 81 Re: ABS---BS. [flightnurse] by zebraox04 Sep 28, 2007 (7:37 am)
Replying to: flightnurse (Aug 19, 2006 3:49 pm) ABS is USELESS if there is nothing the tires can grip on, if the car is on ICE, how are the tires going to 'steer' you out of a accident ?   The assumption is faulty regarding ice.   People can walk on ice. Cars can drive on ice. Granted, the physics have to be within certain bounds to work. But, to imply that ice provides zero traction/friction is not accurate.   ABS' electronics pumping works on the principle of repetitive instantaneous traction, which provides a narrow window for gripping but not too long a window to induce loss of traction (reducing steering control).   This successive on/off "braking" has more of a chance of achieving traction on ice than solid braking, or even manual pumping (since human response time is too long). It certainly won't always work. And it probably won't work at all if the user doesn't know how it works; and how to properly use it.
#77 of 81 Re: ABS---BS. [zebraox04] by daniknight Sep 28, 2007 (8:37 am)
Replying to: zebraox04 (Sep 28, 2007 6:05 am) I had the good fortune to witness first-hand the advantage of having ABS on a vehicle.   I was astonished at what I saw and subsequently made sure my Versa had ABS.   Hopefully I'll never need it, but I'm sure glad I have it. And no, it won't make me a less careful driver.
#78 of 81 '08 Nissan Versa - ABS question by kubus_gt Jan 15, 2008 (6:09 am)
If anyone is at Nissan dealer, please help. I’ve been looking at ’08 Versa SL with CVT. On top of my option list is ABS, with XM, Audio, Moonroof and Conv. Packages. I’m having problem with finding one with ABS and the rest. All the ones around here are either ABS and Conv package, or XM/Audio/Moon/Conv but no ABS. I’m around Pittsburgh, PA, searched inventory for pretty much everyone within 100 miles and found exactly 4 cars with ABS, and only 1 has all 5 options, but wrong color. I have never seen anything like this where certain option is so hard to come by, especially ABS which is pretty much a standard now. I can understand if I was looking for Manual tranny (found 2). Anyway, does anyone know why it’s so hard to get the ABS option? Replies to this message: jd10013 (Jan 16, 2008 2:56 pm)
#79 of 81 Re: '08 Nissan Versa - ABS question [kubus_gt] by jd10013 Jan 16, 2008 (2:56 pm)
Replying to: kubus_gt (Jan 15, 2008 6:09 am) just go to a dealership. they'll either find you what you want, or order one.
#80 of 81 Re: ABS---BS. [danzigdan] by irismg Jan 26, 2008 (12:48 pm)
Replying to: danzigdan (Oct 10, 2006 3:44 pm) And this, you should do whether you have ABS or not.
#81 of 81 Re: ABS---BS. [bendupre] by irismg Jan 26, 2008 (12:54 pm)
Replying to: bendupre (Aug 19, 2006 6:34 pm) If the wheels SPIN, they will slide, as well. Take it from someone who lives where winter preciptation is more likely to be freezing rain than nice, fluffy snow that one's tires can grip on. Winter in Oklahoma is hell, and it freezes over! You can't walk on wet ice, much less drive on it, and I believe ABS won't help in that very bad, but very common, situation. This, I believe, is what the flight nurse was trying in vain to point out.   It's been a couple years since the original comment, but I thought I'd chime in anyway! LOL

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