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Replying to: pf_flyer (Aug 16, 2009 6:16 am) On my Versa, I notice that the rpms will drop about 4k when you let off the gas, in the first 3 gears of the autotrans, but when you are in 4th gear (overdrive) it won't drop at all. So now you've got the engine drag slowing you down as well as the wind pushing you back, if you try to coast in 4th. It's acting like a manual trans in 4th gear, and like an autotrans in gears 1 thru 3.
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Replying to: litesong1 (Aug 16, 2009 11:06 pm) |
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Replying to: twistedmuffin (Aug 18, 2009 8:11 am) In other words, there is NEVER a 4,000 rpm drop in engine speed - that would only happen, imho, if you were locking it in 2nd on the street or in 3rd on the freeway. Please note that with the Yaris, at least on the one I test drove, it is easy - and common - to drive on the freeway in 3rd because the way to opt out of "overdrive 4th" is to position the control lever to the left or right (I forget which) and NOT to push a button on the side of the handle (the more normal way). All this having been said, on my Cobalt automatic the car just seemed to coast on the freeway without much engine drag. But on my wife's Odyssey, it actually feels like it is dropping a gear to provide engine breaking. One system is designed to maximize gas mileage while letting you coast, the other system is designed to maximize engine breaking to reduce brake wear, or help you slow down coming down a hill. |
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Replying to: twistedmuffin (Aug 18, 2009 8:11 am) Quote: On my Versa, I notice that the rpms will drop about 4k when you let off the gas, in the first 3 gears of the autotrans, but when you are in 4th gear (overdrive) it won't drop at all. So now you've got the engine drag slowing you down as well as the wind pushing you back, if you try to coast in 4th. It's acting like a manual trans in 4th gear, and like an autotrans in gears 1 thru 3. ********************************************************************************- **************** What you notice is the torque converter, which does not lock in the first 3 gears (and therefore rpm's drop when you take the foot off the pedal), then locks (I believe the 3rd gear and) 4th gear (no drop in rpm's when you release the pedal). This is normal and by design. Sounds like the Yaris tranny doesn't employ torque lock. If I understand things right, locking the torque converter is good, as it prevents slippage, and therefore improves fuel economy. That said, I am not an expert, so I could be totally off.
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Replying to: fflintstone1 (Aug 19, 2009 8:21 am) |
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I have some mpg numbers now. First tank : 30.0 mpg on 10 % ethanol blend, and 80% hiway. Second tank, still on 10% ethanol, but inflated tired to 40 psi (were 35 psi before) : 32.1 mpg ( 80% hiway). Third tank using Shell pure gas no ethanol and 40 psi in tires : 35.0 mpg (80% hiway). 4th tank. Shell pure gas and 40 psi. (60% hiway) 31.0 mpg. I have the old-fashioned 4 speed auto trans. btw, this includes use of the a/c. |
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When I bought my 07 Versa my brother (a devout Honda fan) bought a 07 Fit bragging all the time about how superior his car was to mine. I disagreed and kept saying I did not see the 4k difference in price. Well now that I have had my Versa for three years and put over 40k miles on it I can say without a doubt that this is one of the best little cars I have ever owned. The ride is great, the mileage has averaged over 32 (except when brand new) in mixed driving and I have had only one issue (with the TPMS, fixed under warranty). My brother with the fit has had it in the shop five times for various things from the radio to the brakes, he has just under 38k miles on his and is now looking to trade it in on guess what, a Versa! We went to Disney together last month him and his family in the Fit and me and my family in the Versa, a 600mile trip (each way) loaded down with our luggage and stuff. Two adults, two kids in each car. I averaged 35.4 mpg he averaged 35.9 mpg. I had no isses with luggage while he had no room for a cooler and his kids had to share a suitcase (a very small one at that). On the return trip my brother wanted to swap cars to see if they could see any difference so we did, that was all it took. Upon getting home they decided to sell the Fit and get a Versa. I will update you all with the details when he sell his Fit and gets the Versa.
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Replying to: twogrim (Aug 31, 2009 11:21 am) Where the Versa really shined was in road noise - it was nice and quiet. The 2008 Fit was much noisier. Where the Fit shined was in handling - it was a little sports car. I got much higher gas mileage on my Fit with 5 speed than on my Versa with 6 speed, both manual transmission - about a 5 mpg difference. (I now have a Cube with CVT and it actually gets slightly better gas mileage than the Versa with stick, so it may have been a sample variation). I have test driven the new generation Fit in 5 speed only and it has a lot of wind noise, a fair amount of road surface noise, and the engine is still geared low - 3,750 rpm or so at 80 mph. So the noise hasn't gotten any better. The handling has gotten worse, except on the Sport Model (I drove both Base and Sport) which handles well but rides terribly (not insufferably terribly, but harsher than the former generation base model which still out handles it, imho and brief opinion). Where the Fit excels is in the fold flat seats and enormous station wagon hauling capacity. I think both are great small cars, but my conclusion is that the Fit is over rated and the Versa is underrated. If you ignore the cost factor, the Versa is slightly superior, if you take into account the cost factor, the Versa is a significantly better buy with one big caveat - when I went to trade in the Versa and Fit after 6 months, the Fit traded in for more than I paid for it (ignoring sales tax and license fees) but the Versa trade in was the more normal Japanese car trade in range. And yes I'd by either again in an instant, but I've gotten pickier about safety and would like to see stability control on both and also better roof crush tests. The mediocre roof crush tests on the Fit coupled with the lack of stability control (which reduces roll-over risk) makes it much less desirable to me, from a safety standpoint. |
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Got my 09 Versa 4 sp auto (not CVT) in August. Have filled up about 7 times since then. Lowest mpg was 30.0, on the first tank Highest was 35.3 mpg  ( I've hit 35 mpg 3 times so far). This is with 75 % hiway driving. Using Shell gas which has no ethanol at my station. I think the lack of ethanol increases mpg's. Also bumped my tire pressure up to 40 psi, from 35 psi.
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Replying to: twistedmuffin (Sep 27, 2009 2:43 pm) 
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