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| I think the Versa would be a better choice for a family than the xA. The Versa seemed to have better acceleration (probably due to the bigger engine) when getting onto the highway and a smoother road feel than the xA. Since I'm single and like the xA's better MPG, that's what I bought. But I thought the Versa was a solid vehicle. | |
| Generally, people consider a timing chain superior to a timing belt. This is true, especially if an owner does not adhere to the factory recommended maintenance schedule. Timing chains will last a long time, whereas belts must be changed periodically - typically at 60K intervals. That being said, the timing belt (proper name: Gilmer belt) is durable, quiet, and cheap to purchase. Labor costs to replace a timing belt are no higher than to replace a timing chain in an OHC engine design. A timing chain parts cost is much higher than a timing belt. Properly maintained, a timing belt design is reliable. Obviously, there are trade-offs to both designs, as timing chains tend to stretch over time and once this occurs beyond the capability of the tensioner to take up the slack, it must be changed out as well. It all comes down to proper maintenance. Don't change your timing belt at the specified intervals, and you'll end up with bent valves and holed pistons in an interference engine design. Thankfully, many new engine designs which use timing belts are non-interference designs, and if the belt should break, no harm in done. | |
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Replying to: fit_ness (Jul 28, 2006 7:00 pm) |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 22, 2006 8:00 am) Ben |
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Replying to: bendupre (Sep 22, 2006 5:47 pm) I test drove a Nissan Versa this afternoon. The car seemed really responsive and the brakes seem fine (Consumer Reports didn't particularly like the breaking). Out on the highway, the car seemed to sway a little bit in a very minor wind. I didn't like the trunk at all. The seats don't fold down completely. But my overall impression was good. So now comes dealing with the salesperson. He told me that they are selling so good that I could put in an order for the exact vehicle I wanted and then if I didn't like it, I would not be obligated to buy it. So we sat down and customized one for me. I wanted CVT and ABS definitely. Those were the only things that what I wanted for "options." Then they tell me (manager also) that I HAVE to get mats and splash guards (the splash guards were about $100). I'm thinking why do they call them options when you don't have a choice? They said it is Nissan who insists on that. Anyway this is the breakdown of the cost of the car they are ordering with my name on it: Versa 1.85 SLHBCVT, ABS, mats, splash guards, $16575 (dealer fee: 397.00; I thought I read somewhere that that is considered padding the price), waste tire and battery fee (6.50), with taxes and title registration) total comes to: 18,272.21. Not negotiable. I would have a trade in. So all you experts on dealing with dealers, does this sound like a good deal? I am also going to be looking at the Mazada 3 hatchback. (I didn't like the Honda or Toyota). My father recently passed away and he was my main source of information on all this stuff. HELP ME! |
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Replying to: joanner (Nov 09, 2006 1:58 pm) |
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Replying to: joanner (Nov 09, 2006 1:58 pm) Also, you might want to look at the Ford Focus 5 door. You'll be able to deal on those versus paying MSRP for the Versa, so the price might be the same. |
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Replying to: joanner (Nov 09, 2006 1:58 pm) Does not sound like a very good deal to me. When we talked to a local Nissan dealership about a Versa SL with CVT and ABS, our OTD quote was more like $17,700. Of course, it did help that there were no such "option requirements (what an oxymoron)" like the floor mat and splash guards, so with those thrown-in, my price would have gotten a little closer to your quoted price. But the fact remains that you do not care for those options and are being forced to take them. And that makes it a bad deal. Mazda3 drives very nicely, although it is not exactly a fuel saving leader. But I do like the way it handles. |
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