Edmunds.com | Inside Line | Auto Observer Your Account | Help | Directory
You are here:
![[F]](http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/townhall/webxicons/site.gif){kind=small}
Forums
Hatchbacks Mazda3 Article Comments: The World's Quickest Hatchback
48 messages, Last post on Dec 08, 2006 at 1:53 PM
You are in the Mazda3 Forum. Your Host is pf_flyer
Article comments for Japanese First Drive: Mazdaspeed 3/Axela MPS - If Mazda ever needed a successful volume-selling car to ensure its survival, then the Mazda 3 is it. In just under three years, the popular hatch has sold more than 920,000 units worldwide and rates as one of the most competitive and best-handling hatches on the market. (more)
|
|
|---|---|
|
Sounds like a nice alternative to the nice-driving but relatively unreliable Euros. I wonder what the Mazdaspeed3 will actually be selling for off the dealer lots?
|
|
|
Replying to: kurtamaxxxguy (Sep 23, 2006 12:22 pm) Getting mine at invoice 
|
|
|
|
|
Replying to: bigelm (Sep 23, 2006 8:19 pm) |
|
|
I'm about to start a new family, and this may be the answer to keeping the car I want, but with more room! I have a 2003.5 MazdaSpeed Protege, and I still love it to death. This is simply a continuation, but with more space and power. I found my MS Protege by accident, and paid only 17K when they were clearing them out. I'm hoping that this car ends up being the same way- so in a year I won't have to pay 23K for it. I love this line, and I am happy it's almost a "secret" with the mass-market. Go Mazda! |
|
|
|
|
Replying to: bigelm (Sep 23, 2006 8:19 pm) For that price point, isn't the Speed 6 the better value?
|
|
|
Replying to: unkownuser (Sep 28, 2006 2:43 pm) 
|
|
|
|
|
Replying to: pepedlux (Sep 28, 2006 6:03 pm) The reason I ask is that I have seen that the 06 Speed 6's are being discounted way down to about 22K. This is the same price point area that the Speed 3 is now being sold at (assuming at MSRP). The Speed 6 is a little bigger and more luxurious, and most importantly it has AWD- seems that would eliminate tendency toward torque steer, as well as the artifically governed 1st & 2nd gears. That's why it seems to me a better buy for the same price. On the other hand, seems like the Speed 3 would be a little more fun to throw around. It's that 22K price point that sticks. This is also a question for the Mazda sales biped- why should I buy X when Y sells for the same price? Call it a negotiating ploy.
|
|
|
Replying to: unkownuser (Sep 29, 2006 7:28 am) Because 'X' is a better car? Because 'X' fills your needs/wants/desires better? A Ford F350 4x4, with a MSRP of $40k+ could be HALF PRICE and I'd still prefer a Speed3 at full MSRP. Regarding a Speed6 vs. a Speed3 at roughly the same price: Speaking personally, I don't want AWD, therefore AWD has ZERO value....TO ME. However, I do want a hatchback (for my practical side) and the (hopefully) better gas mileage of a lighter FWD design vs. a heavier AWD design. So, FOR ME even if the two vehicles were the same price, I'd prefer a Speed3. I'd prefer a Speed3 even if the Speed6 was cheaper. That is because I'm IN the Speed3 market; I'm NOT in the Speed6 market. Obviously, you may have different criteria. AWD may have value to you. A large back set may have value to you. The more luxurious interior may have value to you. IF THEY DO, then by all means a Speed6 might make a LOT more sense. Regarding torque steer: from what little I know of the Speed6, it is ESSENTIALLY a FWD design until it detects imminent slippage and then it engages the rear wheels. You can have torque steer WITHOUT spinning the wheels. In other words, don't assume that any AWD design won't have torque steer, particularly if it is biased towards FWD. Second, from what I've read regarding the Speed3, the torque steer (while present) is NOT what one would generally expect given the power/torque it is capable of. Third, with traction control off, there is MORE THAN ENOUGH torque to spin the tires with abandon in first gear and get SOME slip going into 2nd. Given these facts, how would MORE torque in first/second be beneficial?
|
|
|
|
|
Replying to: rorr (Sep 29, 2006 8:06 am)
|
|
|
Replying to: unkownuser (Sep 29, 2006 10:49 am) It wasn't taken that way either. "Rather, I am just confirming that the manufacturer is offering two differing consumer products in segments normally differentiated by perceived value, and hence by price. I'd be curious as to the story the manufacturer, and the retailer, use to explain the phenomenon." Explain WHAT phenomenon? The fact that some dealer's are offering the Speed6 at essentially the same price as a Speed3? Simple. Supply and demand. Why is it so complicated? They've got more than ample supply of Speed6 and low demand; hence the low-ball prices on a Speed6. They've got little (to no) supply of Speed3 and high demand; hence MSRP (or above). If YOU perceive the Speed6 to have much greater value at 22k than the Speed3, why is this an issue? Buy a Speed6. For the life of me, I don't know where you're going with this. Are you honestly wondering why the demand for Speed6's is much less than anticipated, leading to the low prices?
|
|
You are here:
Forums
Hatchbacks Mazda3 Article Comments: The World's Quickest Hatchback
New? Join Now!
Forum Tools
Search Forums
Browse by Vehicle
2009 Mazda MAZDASPEED MAZDA3
Browse by Board
Browse by Topic
