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Toyota ECHO, Fuel System, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Sedan
#386 of 435 Just hit 300,0400 with my 2000 Echo
Oct 12, 2010 (2:51 pm)
I posted here at the forum over a year ago (can't remember about what) and said I would post again when I hit 300,000. OK....done deal. Just turned 300,0400 with no mechanical failures and still running like a top. I get 40+ MPG consistently (even in WI winters). Will post again when I hit 400,000. Love my gEcho.
Oct 12, 2010 (5:32 pm)
Wow that is awesome! No mechanical failures...really? Nothing like the water pump or alternator replaced? Hows the AC? Have you had the valve clearances checked? You must communte with the car...yes?
#388 of 435 Re: Just hit 300,0400 with my 2000 Echo [likrish]
Oct 12, 2010 (6:16 pm)
Wow, congratulations that's awesome. I'm only at 120000 and it would probably take me 18 more years to get to 300,000. However, I just realized I have never had that suggested valve check. Ooops. Anyone think that is really necessary?
Oct 12, 2010 (6:46 pm)
Probably not necessary. Ive had several motorcycles which have the same valve adjustment design and none of them ever needed an adjustment. One even went 109k without one. The only thing is, if an exhaust valve clearance is too tight the result can be a burned valve. But Ive not heard of ECHOs having problems like that.
The CHECK is easy to do yourself. ADJUSTING an out of spec valve is not. Since almost no cars use this design I have very little confidence in Toyota mechanics being able to do it to my satisfaction.
So it might be a moot point.
#390 of 435 I just recently blew by 145K
Oct 13, 2010 (10:58 pm)
on my way to the big 1-5-oh, just filled up this evening, managed 42 mpg on this tank(9.0 gallons, 381 miles), and oh yeah: I have had no mechanical failures of any kind on my car either. Which includes not having had to replace the clutch or the brakes.
'02 4-door 5-speed, has its 8th birthday this month. All my fill-ups have been 40 mpg or above for quite some time, but I know that three months from now I may see a few 38s and 39s in the mix. I am steeling myself mentally to handle those readings!
NEVER thought I would keep this car this long, BTW. But it's so cheap to operate, and with that gas mileage it is the perfect commute car. Had another comment from a passenger the other day that it "sure did have a lot of useful nooks and crannies for storing stuff!". Yes it does, yes it does indeed.....
#391 of 435 Re: 300000 [kneisl1]
Oct 14, 2010 (8:59 am)
Yes, I commute from Wisconsin to St. Paul everyday. As preventative maintenance, I did have the alternator rebuilt about 10M ago. Valves haven't been touched. AC has been recharged. That's about it. This is salt country but the body is still very clean except for one rust spot starting right on the front edge of the hood just to the left of center when facing the car. I've spotted a rust spot on a couple of other Echos in exactly the same spot. But hey, if that's my only issue, I'm a happy guy.
#392 of 435 Re: I just recently blew by 145K [nippononly]
Nov 07, 2010 (4:20 am)
2000 model, here. I bought it new 10 years ago.
I'm currently at 185K; and finally decided the struts and shocks were getting too wiggly to tolerate. Did the brakes as well, and it's fit for another 100K miles.
2 door manual, I'm currently getting 43 MPG in mixed driving at 55-60 MPH.
I'm currently experimenting with 89 octane, vice 87.... seems I am getting another 2-3 MPG out of that change.
#393 of 435 Re: I just recently blew by 145K [rj2112]
Nov 07, 2010 (6:42 am)
That is interesting. Nealy all my tanks over 50mpg have probably been on 85 octane, which seems to produce considerable mpg in my experience. But it may be caused by some other factor, like different driving conditions/habits when out of state (85 is not available in my homestate). Of course, I have no understanding of the science behind any of it.
Nov 07, 2010 (6:53 am)
Supposedly octane has nothing to do with how well the engine runs. I have noticed however my mileage drop immediately upon the advent of winter grade gas each year and improves again in the spring with summer blend.
#395 of 435 Re: octane [kneisl1]
Nov 07, 2010 (6:58 am)
Octane itself should not have an effect.... but alcohol will. The more alcohol by volume in the fuel, the less energetic it is. Winter grade fuel with 10% alcohol will require you to push on the pedal harder to go as fast, or accelerate as hard. I've seen my MPG drop by as much as 10% due to that alcohol.