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#332 of 345 Re: Auto [kneisl1] by nippononly Sep 16, 2009 (7:16 am)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Sep 15, 2009 1:05 pm) small engine + auto trans with less than 5 speeds =   At least that's usually the case. Echo seems to be one of the most extreme examples of that out there.
#333 of 345 Re: Auto [kneisl1] by lhanson Sep 16, 2009 (7:19 am)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Sep 15, 2009 1:05 pm) I have had both a manual and an automatic Yaris. I have averaged 37 MPG in 90% city driving with both.
#334 of 345 Re: Yaris 2 [dake] by meechity Sep 21, 2009 (11:54 am)
Replying to: dake (Jul 28, 2009 1:01 pm) Hooray! I had the 1996 3-cylinder Metro, I'm currently in the process of graduating from my 2000 Echo, to a 2010 Yaris. And yes the Metro WAS a toaster - I could pick it up if I wanted to.   Words can't describe how much I LOVE my Echo... at 200,000 miles going gangbusters up and down the highway with an automatic transmission, I still get 34 mpg.   (I have to say though... the interior of the Yaris doesn't look NEARLY as nice as the interior of the Echo.) Replies to this message: dake (Sep 26, 2009 5:43 am)
#335 of 345 first full tank by nippononly Sep 24, 2009 (7:21 am)
since the new tires were put on, and the reading is a little low!   384 miles, 9.4 gallons, that's not quite 41 mpg. I hope it is a 1-tank aberration, and that the new tires are not going to cause my mileage to decrease permanently.   On the plus side, the tires are nicer to drive on than the last set, with very little downside beyond a bit more "squirm" on the tread because it is such a deep, widely spaced tread on this tire.   '02 5-speed, officially past 125K on the odo now.....
#336 of 345 Re: Yaris 2 [meechity] by dake Sep 26, 2009 (5:43 am)
Replying to: meechity (Sep 21, 2009 11:54 am) So YOU are the one person that actually liked that gawd-awful upholstery pattern in the Echo. Thank goodness for seat covers.
#337 of 345 another 40... by nippononly Oct 01, 2009 (3:42 pm)
it would appear that my choice of new tire has indeed reduced my fuel economy by 2 mpg.   379 miles, 9.4 gallons, 40 mpg.   If I get much better wet traction than the precious little I had before, I guess I might call it an even trade...   '02 5-speed.
#338 of 345 mpg by kneisl1 Oct 01, 2009 (3:49 pm)
That sucks! Replies to this message: nippononly (Oct 01, 2009 5:17 pm) mcdawgg (Oct 04, 2009 5:23 am) nippononly (Oct 04, 2009 10:34 pm)
#339 of 345 Re: mpg [kneisl1] by nippononly Oct 01, 2009 (5:17 pm)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Oct 01, 2009 3:49 pm) You can say that again!   It was immediately apparent when I got the new tires that they were much softer than the old ones, and probably have much higher rolling resistance as a result. One consequence of that was BOUND to be lower fuel economy, but the ride is softer now too, which is a plus, and if I do end up getting lots more traction in the rain, I guess I will call it even.   They are very grippy! Replies to this message: mcdawgg (Oct 04, 2009 5:23 am) nippononly (Oct 04, 2009 10:34 pm)
#340 of 345 Re: A/C vs cold weather [bottgers] by thegreyone Oct 03, 2009 (10:22 am)
Replying to: bottgers (Aug 28, 2006 10:33 am) Coming from Edmonton (northern Canada) where temperatures are often under - 20 degrees Celcius (-4 degrees Fahrenheit) Although an electric block heater acts as insurance for getting the vehicle started on frigid mornings, there still needs to be a warmup period to get the ice scraped off the windows and the windows all defogged... so we certainly are at the 20% drop of efficiency. And I was interested when the "Mythbusters" TV show did a "A/C vs Open Windows" episode showing that at speeds over 55 mph that A/C is certainly more efficient than the open windows that cause lots of drag due to air friction... especially for sedans that are more streamlined than SUVs. Open windows decreased the mpg by about 20% !!!!!! Below is an interesting link about a similar study... with references. /denis">link title
#341 of 345 drag by kneisl1 Oct 03, 2009 (11:59 am)
I have a hard time believing that open windows would make your mileage go from 40 mpg to 32 mpg on the freeway at 75 mph. Maybe its true? Replies to this message: dake (Oct 03, 2009 1:43 pm) thegreyone (Oct 04, 2009 12:05 pm)

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