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#326 of 345 Re: Yaris 2 [kneisl1] by nippononly Jul 27, 2009 (12:14 pm)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Jul 20, 2009 7:55 am) I'm really hoping that when Toyota revises the Yaris for 2011, there will be significant improvements in the fuel economy. It's so unlike Toyota for a successive model to DROP in fuel economy as happened when the Echo transitioned to the Yaris. Replies to this message: dake (Jul 28, 2009 1:01 pm) mopar71 (Jul 28, 2009 4:55 pm) meechity (Sep 21, 2009 11:54 am) dake (Sep 26, 2009 5:43 am)
#327 of 345 Yaris by kneisl1 Jul 27, 2009 (12:58 pm)
I think the way the Yaris is selling we'll be lucky to even see one in 2011. I saw a TV ad pitching a $79 a month lease of the Yaris recently.
#328 of 345 Re: Yaris 2 [nippononly] by dake Jul 28, 2009 (1:01 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Jul 27, 2009 12:14 pm) It's all about weight. Weight is the fuel economy killer and the newest Yaris is heavier with all the added safety features. That's why we'll be hard pressed to beat the old 3 cylinder Geo - the thing was a toaster box. Once you start adding in side curtain airbags, and all the other bells and whistles, the pounds start adding up.   I just really want them to follow through with a Yaris Hybrid. It'll weigh less than a Prius (which is really pretty big) so it should do better over all including operate under battery power to a higher speed. Replies to this message: mopar71 (Jul 28, 2009 4:55 pm) meechity (Sep 21, 2009 11:54 am) dake (Sep 26, 2009 5:43 am)
#329 of 345 Re: Yaris 2 [dake] by mopar71 Jul 28, 2009 (4:55 pm)
Replying to: dake (Jul 28, 2009 1:01 pm) Hybrid technologies has a yaris hybrid. its called the liv wise. http://www.hybridtechnologies.com/products
#330 of 345 still chugging along... by nippononly Sep 15, 2009 (6:32 am)
Last tank was 414 miles, 9.6 gallons, for a better than 43 mpg reading. The little car just keeps chugging along providing amazing fuel economy, and this summer was a surprise as even with lots of A/C usage, my tank to tank average didn't drop much.   Thanks to kneisl's advice, I am upshifting a bit sooner these days than I did when I first got the car, and I make a habit of not exceeding the speed limit on the highway, expressly to conserve gas. But beyond that I do none of the hypermiling stuff some Prius owners do.   Still 42 mpg overall, over the last 65K miles. The little guy gets new spark plugs and air filter (and maybe a battery) this fall.   '02 5 speed.
#331 of 345 Auto by kneisl1 Sep 15, 2009 (1:05 pm)
I think youve got a big advantage with that 5 speed. With the automatic in the Yaris, it wont shift into fourth until the warmup light goes out. With the ECHO I was in 5th as soon as possible! Still Im averaging 37 mpg overall so far although that includes a 500 mile trip (2500 total miles) where I got 41. Going to work I get 34-36 mpg. Replies to this message: nippononly (Sep 16, 2009 7:16 am) lhanson (Sep 16, 2009 7:19 am)
#332 of 345 Re: Auto [kneisl1] by nippononly Sep 16, 2009 (7:16 am)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Sep 15, 2009 1:05 pm) small engine + auto trans with less than 5 speeds =   At least that's usually the case. Echo seems to be one of the most extreme examples of that out there.
#333 of 345 Re: Auto [kneisl1] by lhanson Sep 16, 2009 (7:19 am)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Sep 15, 2009 1:05 pm) I have had both a manual and an automatic Yaris. I have averaged 37 MPG in 90% city driving with both.
#334 of 345 Re: Yaris 2 [dake] by meechity Sep 21, 2009 (11:54 am)
Replying to: dake (Jul 28, 2009 1:01 pm) Hooray! I had the 1996 3-cylinder Metro, I'm currently in the process of graduating from my 2000 Echo, to a 2010 Yaris. And yes the Metro WAS a toaster - I could pick it up if I wanted to.   Words can't describe how much I LOVE my Echo... at 200,000 miles going gangbusters up and down the highway with an automatic transmission, I still get 34 mpg.   (I have to say though... the interior of the Yaris doesn't look NEARLY as nice as the interior of the Echo.) Replies to this message: dake (Sep 26, 2009 5:43 am)
#335 of 345 first full tank by nippononly Sep 24, 2009 (7:21 am)
since the new tires were put on, and the reading is a little low!   384 miles, 9.4 gallons, that's not quite 41 mpg. I hope it is a 1-tank aberration, and that the new tires are not going to cause my mileage to decrease permanently.   On the plus side, the tires are nicer to drive on than the last set, with very little downside beyond a bit more "squirm" on the tread because it is such a deep, widely spaced tread on this tire.   '02 5-speed, officially past 125K on the odo now.....

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