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Toyota Echo Real World MPG

345 messages,  Last post on Oct 04, 2009 at 10:34 PM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota ECHO, Fuel System, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Sedan


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ac by kneisl1
Jul 17, 2009 (5:26 am)
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How fast were you goin'?
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Yaris by kneisl1
Jul 20, 2009 (6:43 am)
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Well I had the Yaris out for a long distance drive to upstate NY and back this weekend. 250 miles up and 250 miles back. I set the cruise control on 70 mph and used the AC about 20% of the time. MPG? I averaged just a hair under 40 mpg. Not bad! The ECHO would get maybe 1 or 2 mpg more on trips like that. Although I drove about 80 mph in the ECHO.
    Sometimes I shut down the CC because when going up hill the transmission would downshift to maintain 70 mph. I just let the car slow down 5 or so mph but stay in high gear.
   I realize this isnt an ECHO we're talking about here but I mention it because many current ECHO owners may find themselves in a Yaris someday.
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Re: Yaris [kneisl1] by dephinusorca
Jul 20, 2009 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Jul 20, 2009 6:43 am)

That is encouraging. Hopefully my echo lasts until there's actually an improvement in efficiency out there, but the Yaris would be a good replacement choice if there isn't.
 
I haven't been tracking mileage for the last year because my wife has taken over the car and I'm on foot except for weekends. But we'll be going on about a 2500 mile road trip soon, and will chart the mileage. Last year a similar trip got just a shade under 50mpg average and three tanks of around 53.
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Yaris 2 by kneisl1
Jul 20, 2009 (7:55 am)
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Boy no way I see 50 mpg with this Yaris and auto transmission. Maybe if I set the CC for 60? I think that would be suicide on the interstate though!
   I have a bad feeling the most FE/affordable ever to be made car will be the ECHO.
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Re: Yaris 2 [kneisl1] by nippononly
Jul 27, 2009 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Jul 20, 2009 7:55 am)

I'm really hoping that when Toyota revises the Yaris for 2011, there will be significant improvements in the fuel economy. It's so unlike Toyota for a successive model to DROP in fuel economy as happened when the Echo transitioned to the Yaris.
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Yaris by kneisl1
Jul 27, 2009 (12:58 pm)
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I think the way the Yaris is selling we'll be lucky to even see one in 2011. I saw a TV ad pitching a $79 a month lease of the Yaris recently.
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Re: Yaris 2 [nippononly] by dake
Jul 28, 2009 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 27, 2009 12:14 pm)

It's all about weight. Weight is the fuel economy killer and the newest Yaris is heavier with all the added safety features. That's why we'll be hard pressed to beat the old 3 cylinder Geo - the thing was a toaster box. Once you start adding in side curtain airbags, and all the other bells and whistles, the pounds start adding up.
 
I just really want them to follow through with a Yaris Hybrid. It'll weigh less than a Prius (which is really pretty big) so it should do better over all including operate under battery power to a higher speed.
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Re: Yaris 2 [dake] by mopar71
Jul 28, 2009 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: dake (Jul 28, 2009 1:01 pm)

Hybrid technologies has a yaris hybrid. its called the liv wise.
http://www.hybridtechnologies.com/products
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still chugging along... by nippononly
Sep 15, 2009 (6:32 am)
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Last tank was 414 miles, 9.6 gallons, for a better than 43 mpg reading. The little car just keeps chugging along providing amazing fuel economy, and this summer was a surprise as even with lots of A/C usage, my tank to tank average didn't drop much.
 
Thanks to kneisl's advice, I am upshifting a bit sooner these days than I did when I first got the car, and I make a habit of not exceeding the speed limit on the highway, expressly to conserve gas. But beyond that I do none of the hypermiling stuff some Prius owners do.
 
Still 42 mpg overall, over the last 65K miles. The little guy gets new spark plugs and air filter (and maybe a battery) this fall.
 
'02 5 speed.
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Auto by kneisl1
Sep 15, 2009 (1:05 pm)
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I think youve got a big advantage with that 5 speed. With the automatic in the Yaris, it wont shift into fourth until the warmup light goes out. With the ECHO I was in 5th as soon as possible! Still Im averaging 37 mpg overall so far although that includes a 500 mile trip (2500 total miles) where I got 41. Going to work I get 34-36 mpg.

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