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#312 of 345 Heres How by kneisl1 May 03, 2009 (7:26 am)
Definately notice a BIG difference in the manual shift cars vs the autos mileage wise. Autos just dont cut it. My 04 ECHO with auto averaged 31 mpg and my new Yaris with auto is getting 34. (well thats the first tank) Thats all city miles NO highway. My manual ECHO got pretty much 40 mpg (less in winter) just city driving. You can expect high 40s with a manual on the highway if you keep it to 60-65 mph. I got 52 mpg once like that over 165 miles highway driving. Its interesting to me that the new mpg numbers for the Yaris are identical manual and auto. (and they stink) Weird and hard to believe.
#313 of 345 Re: How?!? [dephinusorca] by electrify May 03, 2009 (7:32 am)
Replying to: dephinusorca (May 02, 2009 7:07 pm) I'm in the Toronto area, the weather is currently very nice spring/summer like. Surprisingly, I did notice a slight drop when I switched off my winter tires (which were new this season) to the all season that came with it when I got it last year, so maybe I should look into getting new tires? I also checked the air filter the other day (which is a pain in the ass on this car) and it didn't seem too dirty, but I will probably change it when I bring her in next weekend.
#314 of 345 air filter by kneisl1 May 03, 2009 (11:45 am)
Air filter a PITA on an ECHO? I suggest removing the air intake hose from the housing before unsnapping the clips. Theres a clamp that uses a philips screw to loosen it. It might be a fight but once you get it off the air filter housing is easy to deal with. Spray the hose and filter housing with WD40 to make reassembly and futurre disassembly a snap! Replies to this message: electrify (May 03, 2009 4:44 pm) nippononly (May 03, 2009 9:27 pm)
#315 of 345 Re: air filter [kneisl1] by electrify May 03, 2009 (4:44 pm)
Replying to: kneisl1 (May 03, 2009 11:45 am) If you must know, I was able to get it out with relatively little problems. But I had problems getting the rear clips to go back in, and figured that I had to disconnect the big hose on the front to do it. I removed the clasp but still had problems, so while trying to put it back on I dropped the screw somewhere under the hood !   At this point, I got my landlord's brother who is an amateur mechanic to come by and he was able to reattach the casing without a problem. However with the hose, he simply reconnected it and said not to worry about it... I didn't feel comfortable with this advice, so I took it to a Canadian Tire and they reattached it properly.   So bottom line, dealing with the air filter is a little more complicated with the Echo than with most cars.   Anyways, does anyone have any suggestions for good low rolling resistance tires? From what I can tell visually, they don't seem to be worn out, however according to Google, I believe they are designed for grip rather than fuel economy. Also seeing my mileage drop from 36-39MPG to 34-36MPG AFTER removing my winter tires AND getting my alignment corrected is leading me to believe that there may be issues with the tires. Replies to this message: nippononly (May 03, 2009 9:27 pm)
#316 of 345 MPG by mnman May 03, 2009 (6:19 pm)
Winter takes down my mileage big time, say 10 mpg highway. I do very well in the summer on the rural highways at 60mph, often above 50 mpg. On one trip it was 56 mpg, must have been perfect weather... I have 80,000 miles on the irridium plugs, they say they are 100K plugs, but I may change them sometime soon (this summer maybe) BTW- my Echo is a 01 manual with 115000 miles on it. I love the car for what it does the best, gets me there cheaply and purrs like new all the way!! The wife has a Prius ('08) It is nice, the ride is better and it has more luxeries, but she paid for it- five times more than I did for the Echo....
#317 of 345 Re: air filter [electrify] by nippononly May 03, 2009 (9:27 pm)
Replying to: electrify (May 03, 2009 4:44 pm) The tires that have enabled me to attain a 42 mpg lifetime average on my '02 (with stick shift, NOT automatic) are Toyo Spectrums which have the added advantage of a 65K-mile treadwear warranty (which they have easily achieved. It's looking like 75K will be possible at this point).   In a stick shift Echo, it's child's play to pull 50 mpg on a highway trip as long as you keep it to the speed limit and no more.   A lot of tire shops will offer you "a bit more tire" (a bigger size) as mine did when I went for the Echo's tires, but sticking to the 175/65/14s that were stock (unless you had the appearance package in later years) will give you the best mileage.
#318 of 345 just checking in by nippononly Jul 02, 2009 (1:25 pm)
With summer now here in full force, A/C use is once again a daily occurrence for me, but despite that I am managing 41 mpg - filled last night with 9.5 gallons, 391 miles. The one before that was actually 42 mpg, so I am doing a bit better than last summer if memory serves.   This little car is really something in the fuel economy department.   '02 5-speed 4-door.
#319 of 345 MPG by mnman Jul 02, 2009 (2:17 pm)
That is great per tank mpg, my '01 5M got me home from northern Wisconsin again for the umteenth time last night, I started out with the gauge at about 5/8 tank, a little lower actually, 180 miles later- still above 1/4 full. 53 mpg. according to scangauge. I drove another 30 miles today around town (traffic signals all over) then stopped and put in some $2.40 gas, six bucks I had in my pocket brought er back up to half a tank again, good to go for awhile. I felt like a kid trying to get by on a few bucks all the time! That was 30 years ago, LOL
#320 of 345 did a short fill today by nippononly Jul 13, 2009 (10:59 pm)
because I came across a station with a great price and I had a long drive home.   Anyway, it was a hair under 6 gallons for 286 miles, a whopping 47.5 mpg!! Of course, I assume it was a short fill so I will average it with the next one, but still I bet the average for this 700 miles will be more than my usual 42.   Gotta love how frugal the Echo is with gas. Replies to this message: nippononly (Jul 16, 2009 11:01 pm)
#321 of 345 Re: did a short fill today [nippononly] by nippononly Jul 16, 2009 (11:01 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Jul 13, 2009 10:59 pm) So the next fill was tonight, 326 miles, 8.5 gallons, 38 mpg. So that's a hair short of 43 mpg for the last 600 miles or so, not bad considering it's summer and I'm using the A/C all the time now.

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