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#306 of 345 echo by kneisl1 Apr 17, 2009 (8:53 am)
Well heck Im always here! My 2001 has 44k miles on it and the 2000 auto I bought for my son for $3000 last year has 124,000 miles. (started at 116k) Runs like a top too!
#307 of 345 just checking in by nippononly Apr 22, 2009 (12:34 pm)
last fill-up was 374 miles, 8.9 gallons, so 42 mpg right on the nose. The little Echo just keeps chugging along, 118K now, still no repairs ever and no maintenance beyond oil changes in the last 12 months. The spark plugs and air filter come due around 125K, and it will need tires right after that, so it may be that I will choose to sell it instead of do the maintenance, which will cost more than $500 including the tires.   We will see.
#308 of 345 Still love my little car by mnman Apr 26, 2009 (7:20 pm)
Spring is here in the midwest and my mileage is up, I got 54 mpg on a 180 mile trip to the lake and 50 on the way back, according to the ScanGauge. It seems accurate to me. I bought the car in 03 for a pittance $5800 w/26k miles. It has 115,000 miles on it now and is just broke in. I hope to be hitting the road more often and my goal is to wring out 300,000 miles out of it. If you want a cruise, check out the Rostra.
#309 of 345 gov by kneisl1 Apr 29, 2009 (7:35 am)
www.fueleconomy.gov     Gp to this site and click on the lower left where it says Your Mpg. You can keep a running record of your MPG and keep it for ever and for others to see.
#310 of 345 How?!? by electrify May 02, 2009 (6:02 pm)
How are you guys recording 40+ MPG when filling up?!? When I hypermile the hell out of my car (shift to park at red lights, slow and smooth acceleration, driving the speed limit - which is 100km/h (62MPH) where I am, releasing throttle at certain points to upshift sooner, tire pressure at max, etc), and most of the time I get 37 to 38 MPG max!!! I work as a courier, so I end up bringing my car in each month for oil changes and regular maintenance.   Are you guys using manual transmissions or coasting in neutral? The only time I've ever recorded over 40 MPG was by shifting into neutral when approaching red lights or going down hills. I stopped though, since I heard it could be bad for the engine from most sources.   I really need to buy a Scanguage Replies to this message: dephinusorca (May 02, 2009 7:07 pm) electrify (May 03, 2009 7:32 am)
#311 of 345 Re: How?!? [electrify] by dephinusorca May 02, 2009 (7:07 pm)
Replying to: electrify (May 02, 2009 6:02 pm) There is no doubt that the manuals can get higher miles--a solid ten percent higher, I think, everything else being equal. Also, from what I have observed people reporting, I think that there is just some significant difference from vehicle to vehicle, irrespective of driver. And then there are the issues of how you drive, how long your commute is, how cold the weather is, etc. My car has averaged 46mpg for the 30,000mi or so I've had it, with probably 85%/15% freeway to city. Once or twice during cold spells and with lots of city driving I got (barely) less than 40mpg on a tank. But I haven't seen automatics post averages over 40mpg very often on this board. Replies to this message: electrify (May 03, 2009 7:32 am)
#312 of 345 Heres How by kneisl1 May 03, 2009 (7:26 am)
Definately notice a BIG difference in the manual shift cars vs the autos mileage wise. Autos just dont cut it. My 04 ECHO with auto averaged 31 mpg and my new Yaris with auto is getting 34. (well thats the first tank) Thats all city miles NO highway. My manual ECHO got pretty much 40 mpg (less in winter) just city driving. You can expect high 40s with a manual on the highway if you keep it to 60-65 mph. I got 52 mpg once like that over 165 miles highway driving. Its interesting to me that the new mpg numbers for the Yaris are identical manual and auto. (and they stink) Weird and hard to believe.
#313 of 345 Re: How?!? [dephinusorca] by electrify May 03, 2009 (7:32 am)
Replying to: dephinusorca (May 02, 2009 7:07 pm) I'm in the Toronto area, the weather is currently very nice spring/summer like. Surprisingly, I did notice a slight drop when I switched off my winter tires (which were new this season) to the all season that came with it when I got it last year, so maybe I should look into getting new tires? I also checked the air filter the other day (which is a pain in the ass on this car) and it didn't seem too dirty, but I will probably change it when I bring her in next weekend.
#314 of 345 air filter by kneisl1 May 03, 2009 (11:45 am)
Air filter a PITA on an ECHO? I suggest removing the air intake hose from the housing before unsnapping the clips. Theres a clamp that uses a philips screw to loosen it. It might be a fight but once you get it off the air filter housing is easy to deal with. Spray the hose and filter housing with WD40 to make reassembly and futurre disassembly a snap! Replies to this message: electrify (May 03, 2009 4:44 pm) nippononly (May 03, 2009 9:27 pm)
#315 of 345 Re: air filter [kneisl1] by electrify May 03, 2009 (4:44 pm)
Replying to: kneisl1 (May 03, 2009 11:45 am) If you must know, I was able to get it out with relatively little problems. But I had problems getting the rear clips to go back in, and figured that I had to disconnect the big hose on the front to do it. I removed the clasp but still had problems, so while trying to put it back on I dropped the screw somewhere under the hood !   At this point, I got my landlord's brother who is an amateur mechanic to come by and he was able to reattach the casing without a problem. However with the hose, he simply reconnected it and said not to worry about it... I didn't feel comfortable with this advice, so I took it to a Canadian Tire and they reattached it properly.   So bottom line, dealing with the air filter is a little more complicated with the Echo than with most cars.   Anyways, does anyone have any suggestions for good low rolling resistance tires? From what I can tell visually, they don't seem to be worn out, however according to Google, I believe they are designed for grip rather than fuel economy. Also seeing my mileage drop from 36-39MPG to 34-36MPG AFTER removing my winter tires AND getting my alignment corrected is leading me to believe that there may be issues with the tires. Replies to this message: nippononly (May 03, 2009 9:27 pm)

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