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Toyota Echo Real World MPG

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echo mileage by kneisl1
Apr 23, 2007 (2:57 pm)
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My 2001 ECHO with about 36k miles has gotten about 40 mpg average over its lifetime. UNTIL last fall when I started using gas with 10% alcohol in it. Then I started getting 33-35 mpg same type of driving ie city driving about 6 miles a trip speeds 45 mph. They say at the station this is the "winter forumla". Now the last two tanks Im back to 40 mpg. Winter formula must be gone now.
 A couple years ago i went to Atlantic City and back a distance of about 165 miles. I went a steady 60 mpg and got 51 mpg when I filled the tank. I almost never drive long distances and over 45 mph. Thats the only time this happened. Better than a Prius I think!
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hit a round number spot on tonight by nippononly
Apr 27, 2007 (6:43 pm)
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and yes, it was 41, not surprising given my track record with this car. 402 miles, 9.8 gallons, which is exactly 41 mpg. I'm just about to turn over 82K miles.
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echo milage by dsemery
Jun 10, 2007 (10:52 am)
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2003 2dr sedan, 89k miles currently.
 
usually get 41 mpg, depending on AC use.
Rear and passenger seats removed for better cargo capacity, negligible improovement in MPG.
Mostly rural/highway driving on eastern LI which has some hills, but is generally flat. A couple trips to Toronto via the Adirondacks, similar milage.
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Re: echo milage [dsemery] by mopar71
Jun 10, 2007 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: dsemery (Jun 10, 2007 10:52 am)

These cars get between 35 to 42 miles per gallon(MPG). If someone says that they get 50(MPG) they must be talking about MPH-miles per hour or they dont know math!I have 2 echos,a 2000 and a 2003.I also have 2 friends that have echos to! Nobody has ever gotten 50 miles per gallon.I also put Mobile 1 0w20 and still get about 39, now that I put royal purple in the trans it got me an extra mpg.It shifts a lot more smoother to.
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mpg by kneisl1
Jun 11, 2007 (5:44 am)
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I got 52 mpg once drive 162 mile to Atlantic City and back. One of the rare times I drive on the highway above 45 mph. I went 60-65 the whole way. I never repeated that so I dont know if it was a fluke. But I do have about 8000 highway miles under the cars belt at 80 mph. Then its gets a pretty consistant 42 mpg.
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Re: mpg [kneisl1] by mopar71
Jun 11, 2007 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Jun 11, 2007 5:44 am)

It was probably a fluke,Once I went to a gas station and told the attendant to fill it up,The nozzle stopped pumping so the attendant assumed it was full,when I did my calculation(I keep a calculator in my car)I got over 60 mpg.I told the guy that The car was not full he gave me only 6 gallons,I told him to repump and sure enough he pumped an additional 3 gallons.When I redid the math it was 37 mpg.To do these calculations correct you are better going to the same gas station,this way the car is in the same position,also fill it to the top and zero the odometer.then when you go and fill it again(usually when its almost empty,then you do your calculation.miles devided by gallons.I just did mine yesterday.EXAMPLE=350.5 miles driven after the attendant filled it up he put in 8.837 gallons.I rezero my odometer for my next trip.350.5/8.837=39.662. I used my airconditioner quit a bit.
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math by kneisl1
Jun 11, 2007 (8:54 am)
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I do use the same gas station even the exact same pump. I even buy almost exactly the same ammount of fuel every two weeks, five gallons. The only strange thing that seems to happen is that one week I get 42-44 mpg and the next week I will get 36-38. Cant explain that.
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Re: echo milage [mopar71] by nippononly
Jun 11, 2007 (7:55 pm)
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Replying to: mopar71 (Jun 10, 2007 2:14 pm)

Pshaw! I got 50 mpg in the Echo on two different tankfuls. It was a winter trip to SoCal, took the coast road (101) so more flat terrain and no 80 mph passing stuff, in contrast with I-5. Set the cruise on 65, never had to use A/C, was doing 500 miles per tank and putting in 10 gallons at a shot. That's 50 in my book.
 
I was doing one thing different on purpose to see how high I could boost my mileage, and that was instead of passing cars by speeding up, I would slow down behind them until the road was clear, and then pass them at 65 mph (101 is 4 or 6 lanes the whole way, in case you're worried! ). It was an evening drive both ways, neither day was Friday or Sunday, so I could do that easily as there wasn't a lot of traffic.
 
Another long trip I took in it, I was running 65-70 mph with higher-speed passing and had the A/C running all the way, and was still pulling 46 mpg in long highway stints.
 
The Echo is possibly the most amazing gas-saving machine sold by a major car manufacturer since the days of Geo Metros and the special hi-mi Civics of the late 80s and early 90s.
 
edit: when I am in town, the Echo is my commute car, and like kneisl1 I always fill at the same gas station, almost always at the same pump. Unlike kneisl, however, my mileage never varies much. 39 is a rare and low reading, 42 would be rare and high. Almost without exception the mileage is always 40-41 in town, and I fill it when the light comes on, so my fills are always 9.5-10 gallons. Gotta love that consistency!
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50 by kneisl1
Jun 12, 2007 (4:01 am)
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Thats practically as good as a Prius would get on the highway. Prius does its best around town where the battery can come into play. Which is good because most driving is done there. On the road forget it, the battery isnt used and your lugging around 1000 pounds of advanced technology that might as well be a load of stone. Oh well at least the poor sods have their lie-o-meter pinball machine dashboard they can monitor the mileage on. Of course they believe it and think they are just the bees knees driving such a wonderfull car! All the while they have been goofed into paying twice as much for a car as an ECHO/Yaris. Which gets 80% (or better) of the mileage.
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Re: 50 [kneisl1] by nippononly
Jun 12, 2007 (6:11 am)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Jun 12, 2007 4:01 am)

I have done the same trip in the Prius, and managed 45 mpg or so. I would say if most of your driving is on the highway and you don't mind spartan equipment levels, you would be better off saving $12 grand and buying an Echo, now Yaris, than springing for the Prius.
 
But of course if you do a grinding stop-and-go commute every day and you like luxury features in your car, well then of course you should go with the Prius.

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