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I managed by nippononly
Oct 05, 2008 (7:24 pm)
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a 44 reading yesterday - 8.3 gallons, 369 miles. Who wants to bet the pump cut off a little early?
 
The next tank will tell that story....
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pump by kneisl1
Oct 06, 2008 (5:09 am)
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Thats why you keep a running average so it all evens out. Waiting for the dreaded winter blend of gas to hit the pumps and bring with it 35 mpg down from 40 mpg. This summer didnt have to use AC much at all. I think my average for the summer this year was more like 42 mpg than 40 mpg. Gas here in NJ is $3.09 if you pay cash and its clearly headed south of $3.
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Re: pump [kneisl1] by nippononly
Oct 06, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Oct 06, 2008 5:09 am)

Yeah, my running average is a hair below 42. Most of the year I can count on 42 or a little more from the pump, but for a couple of months in the winter my tank-to-tank readings drop into the 40-42 range.
 
The gas I just bought cost $3.61/gallon. Since I was there it has dropped to $3.59. There is no way we will see gas under $3 in California, but I am hoping it gets down close to there. That will be not much above last winter's price trough.
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Re: I managed [nippononly] by nippononly
Oct 10, 2008 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 05, 2008 7:24 pm)

Well, the verdict is in. 351 miles, 8.4 gallons, 41.5 mpg. So the pump cut off a little early last time. Still, between the two that's almost 43 mpg over more than 700 miles.....not TOO bad...
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Re: Gulf Gas [kneisl1] by kfho
Nov 08, 2008 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Sep 18, 2008 12:04 pm)

Easy answer: You live downhill from the GULF station and the wind was behind you after you filled up. It was also a cool day and a high pressure weather pattern, [you know, a (H)] was centered over your area. Environmental factors influence performance. All these factors boost performance.
 
Well, it could happen. Think about it.
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gulf by kneisl1
Nov 09, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Well I also did get to drive 20 miles from the Gulf station home 45 mph non stop in fifth gear.
   Im experimenting with limiting top speed to 35 mph down from 45 mpg. So far (two tanks) mileage is no better. BUT its possible the winter blend of fuel had occured which results in a loss of 4-5 mpg. If it has happened then Im getting 4-5 mpg BETTER than 45 mph. Note that I drive 13.7 miles each day and only about 6 miles of that is spent in 5th gear non stop. So 7 miles of driving hasnt changed at all.
  Saw gas for sale at $1.99 gallon today. Not sure thats a good thing...
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Re: gulf [kneisl1] by dephinusorca
Nov 09, 2008 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Nov 09, 2008 11:44 am)

I spent a couple of weeks at Yellowstone this summer, where 45mph was max speed. I cruised 35 in fourth, 45 in fifth, but made frequent stops for sightseeing, and had three consecutive tanks of 50mpg or better, with a best of 53+. At 65mph on freeway I normally get around 47. So my experiences are similar to a 5mpg improvement dropping from 65 to 45.
 
As far as cheap gas, I just hope that the change in administration will help speed our automakers' conversion to more fuel efficient vehicles, no matter what the cost of gas. I know that Obama plans to reverse the Bush policy blocking the states from setting their own emissions standards. Maybe now the EPA will be allowed to do what it is supposed to do.
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bush/obo by kneisl1
Nov 10, 2008 (8:04 am)
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Yeah the Dems have a whole agenda in store to undo everything Bush did. They better think about it real good because Bush had some good reasons for some of the things he did.
  One thing he didnt do was mandate an energy policy. Like no cars that dont get at least 35 mpg. No cars like the Prius that just take the money you would have given Exxon and give it to Toyota either. Techno frauds!
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Re: bush/obo [kneisl1] by dephinusorca
Nov 13, 2008 (10:27 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Nov 10, 2008 8:04 am)

Well, setting aside bush's reasoning, which I'm all too glad to put behind me, I disagree on the issue of the prius.
 
In my view, and in the view of the prius owners I know, the prius is not about saving money at the gas pump. Maybe a few people think that is true, but none of the people I know think that they will spend 25000 on that car and end up spending less on transportation than my $4600 echo that averages 46mpg.
 
What it is about is emissions, and the environment. They can get a nice comfortable family car that gets great mileage and produces drastically fewer pollutants than any other sedan on the market, including the much smaller echo. I can't afford one, and dont need one, but if I had a couple of kids and the money I'd be very happy to buy it.
 
On another note, I've posted no mpg posts lately because I have moved and am walking to work! Haven't bought a tank of gas since August. The car has been turned over to my wife and she doesnt seem to care about tracking mileage.
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Re: bush/obo [dephinusorca] by nippononly
Nov 14, 2008 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: dephinusorca (Nov 13, 2008 10:27 pm)

Hey there! I was wondering what happened to you! Cool deal, to be able to walk to work.
 
As for me, my mileage is running 43-44 mpg right now as it always does in fall and spring. I know I will pay for this in a couple months' time, with lots of tanks around 40 as those cold winter months begin.....
 
The car is at 108K miles now, still has never needed a repair, the next tuneup is due at 115K. It may need a battery before then - I wonder if having a weak battery (as mine is beginning to have now) impacts gas mileage at all......

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