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#246 of 319 50mpg breakthrough by dephinusorca Aug 31, 2008 (12:13 am)
First, I've been bad about reporting for quite a while because I've been busy with vacation, moving, and etc. But I've a lot to report.   After never having a 50 mpg tank before (think I topped out at 48.7) I had four within the space of a month, and three consecutively. Since mid July my last tanks have been: 44.6, 51.7, 44, 44.9, 45.3, 50.4, 53.7, 52.6, and 46.4. The first 50mpg (51.7) tank came on 90% steady 60mph driving long trip. The second 50mpg tank (50.4) was faster (ave. 70mph or so) but was nonstop driving from northern to southern Montana, 388 miles in one run. The next two amazed me: 53.7 and 52.6 mpg. How possible? They were entirely within the confines of Yellowstone and Grand Tetons national parks, with 45mph top speeds. Lots of driving, but lots of stops too. This really shows the amazing numbers possible driving 40 in fourth, 45 in fifth, never accelerating rapidly.   The final tank of my vacation I hoped to drive all 80mph on my way home (through MT speed limit is 75) to try to nail down the effect of speed on mpg. I averaged 80mph for 300 miles, but for 150 or so miles more like 65mph. End result was 46.4mpg.   What are my conclusions? Nothing surprising: (1) speed matters--60mph gets great mileage but even slower is still more efficient (2) length of trip matters--short is bad, long is good, really long is even better (3) This car is awesome--I drove well over 3000 miles on this roadtrip and gas prices were the least of my concerns (especially when I realized every other vehicle in MT and WY is some Dodge dually pickup that costs $150 to fill up).
#247 of 319 mpg by kneisl1 Aug 31, 2008 (5:22 am)
Yes I too have noticed the good results of driving 60 mph in the ECHO. I had a 52 mpg average once whem I drove to AC and back at that speed. You just feel the car is in a zone or something. There must be something special about your ECHO because those are pretty amazing numbers you are posting. I think it helps a lot to drive in warm evn hot weather. If I go 80 mph nonstop I get 42 mpg. Dont get rid of that car whatever you do! Also thats some pretty awesome territory youre driving through!
#248 of 319 Gas Saving Tip by kneisl1 Sep 01, 2008 (7:40 am)
I have started shifting from second gear directly to fourth gear skipping third. I find I can accelerate to 25 in second gear and putting it into fourth is no problem. I do this on a level surface or maybe with a slight downhill grade. Merging onto a freeway or going uphill yeah I would still shift to third. I find here in flat NJ (or the flat part of NJ) it wont lug the engine to do that.
#249 of 319 Re: got a blip [nippononly] by nippononly Sep 04, 2008 (10:13 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Aug 22, 2008 11:17 pm) Well the verdict is in: the pump shut off early last time. Tonight's fill was 367 miles, 9-1/4 gallons, for a tank average just shy of 40 mpg. So the running average remains an amazingly consistent 42...   Oh well. If I could just force myself to slow down, I'm sure I could bring it up a few points but hey! I'm in a hurry!
#250 of 319 mpg by kneisl1 Sep 05, 2008 (8:19 am)
42 mpg is pretty good! Its well documented though that cruising at 60-65 mph non-stop is going to get you those higher mpg numbers. Im tempted when it comes time to change the belts to leave off the power steering belt and see if that makes any difference.
#251 of 319 43-1/3 mpg by nippononly Sep 08, 2008 (8:09 pm)
is my latest result, which I thought was pretty good given the CONSTANT A/C use, with the fan jacked up to high. We have been having a major heat wave which seems to have just broken as of today.   325 miles, 7.5 gallons.
#252 of 319 heat wave by kneisl1 Sep 09, 2008 (6:27 am)
Gee that would suggest there isnt much of an impact on mpg by using AC. This summer here in NJ I have only used AC maybe 10 times. Mileage is often 42 mpg as im taking a few 20-40 mile jaunts now and then 45 mph.
#253 of 319 Gulf Gas by kneisl1 Sep 18, 2008 (1:04 pm)
I fill up 99% of the time at the same Sunoco station. But recently I filled up at a Gulf station about 20 miles from my house. Not driving much differently I got 44 mpg on that tank! I normally get 40-42. I wonder did Gulf help any? Replies to this message: nippononly (Sep 18, 2008 4:25 pm) kfho (Nov 08, 2008 9:40 pm)
#254 of 319 Re: Gulf Gas [kneisl1] by nippononly Sep 18, 2008 (4:25 pm)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Sep 18, 2008 1:04 pm) Could be - you wouldn't be the first one I have ever seen on these boards that swears that changing from their usual gas station netted them an mpg increase.   Me, I always use Chevron gas just because it is the most convenient in terms of location. We don't have Sunoco or Gulf in my neck of the woods, but years ago when I would switch between ARCO and Chevron, I always measured an mpg increase with the Chevron gas.
#255 of 319 I managed by nippononly Oct 05, 2008 (8:24 pm)
a 44 reading yesterday - 8.3 gallons, 369 miles. Who wants to bet the pump cut off a little early?   The next tank will tell that story.... Replies to this message: nippononly (Oct 10, 2008 9:17 pm)

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